Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Bharatah]

I don't think any attack is happening despite the US buildup. The math about missiles v interceptors is still not in the favor of US/Israel. I think it's more Trump ensuring that Iran doesn't execute any "protestors" it has detained and thereby keep his promise of "help is on the way".

My friend, you're repeating the narrative of a media bubble that has been refuted a long time ago. There hasn't been any kind of "protest" in Iran for more than 5 or 6 days; Mossad and CIA agents have already been arrested and others killed. There are no "protests" resulting in deaths, only foreign agents. The Color Revolution was created by the CIA and Mossad to try to create a justification for war along with local terrorists armed by the CIA and Mossad, but it all failed. Iran cut off satellite communication and everything was lost. "Protests" now only exist in the Zionist media.

 

[Watandar]

Indeed, there are valid arguments against an imminent attack on Iran, but, brother, please, the number of executed Iranians is not a part of this reasoning at all. Do you really think they actually care about 800 dead Iranians when they killed almost a hundred Iranians on average per day just a couple months ago?

No I don't think the US cares for the average Iranian, just like it cares nothing for average Iraqi or Afghan or Palestinian or Venezuelan. Trump had said "help is on the way" and needed to demonstrate it in some way.

Trump wants a quick, decisive hit that will totally change the situation, like in Venezuela. So far his team is split on whether that is possible in Iran. That uncertainty plus the missile interceptor math is keeping the US on a leash.

They can still try assassinations or seizing oil tankers.

 

[mangekyo]

No I don't think the US cares for the average Iranian, just like it cares nothing for average Iraqi or Afghan or Palestinian or Venezuelan. Trump had said "help is on the way" and needed to demonstrate it in some way.

Trump wants a quick, decisive hit that will totally change the situation, like in Venezuela. So far his team is split on whether that is possible in Iran. That uncertainty plus the missile interceptor math is keeping the US on a leash.

They can still try assassinations or seizing oil tankers.

why did they evacuate from bases in the region and why continue sending in new weapons and planes? Its not free. I don’t believe he is wasting all that money only to flex. They are cooking something

 

[Bharatah]

why did they evacuate from bases in the region and why continue sending in new weapons and planes? Its not free. I don’t believe he is wasting all that money only to flex. They are cooking something

This is part of a hybrid warfare strategy, not a conventional attack. A conventional attack has to be like the one in Iraq in 2003 or Vietnam in the 50s/60s; it requires a completely different level of preparation.

 

[Falcon29]

Attack is imminent

Window for preemptive Iranian strike is running out

They're just preparing defenses around Israel and lots of jets in Jordan to intercept incoming Iranian drones

Iran will be making big mistake to wait for blow and have its missile silos rendered inoperable again

Hit Israel now with preemptive strike. Yes they will respond but they will scramble to and maybe even delay a response. If they respond and it becomes war then so be it because it will be a war either way

Just massively in their favor

 

[Bharatah]

Attack is imminent

Window for preemptive Iranian strike is running out

They're just preparing defenses around Israel and lots of jets in Jordan to intercept incoming Iranian drones

Iran will be making big mistake to wait for blow and have its missile silos rendered inoperable again

Hit Israel now with preemptive strike. Yes they will respond but they will scramble to and maybe even delay a response. If they respond and it becomes war then so be it because it will be a war either way

Just massively in their favor

Reuters said 8 days ago that the US would attack Iran within 24 hours...this kind of thing is nothing new. It's always imminent; for hybrid warfare to work, it always has to be said that it's imminent.

NOTE : The leader of Ansar Allah (Yemen): "The US suffered a heavy defeat in Iran."

The US conspiracy against the Islamic Republic of Iran was extensive, but it completely failed, and the criminal gangs collapsed.

The situation in Iran is fully under control, and the US suffered a heavy defeat.

 

[VCheng]

No I didn't mean it like that ofcourse.

Thank you for the clarification. So you made a PREDICTION, not a prophecy. After all, what can be expected of a named follower of Ahura Mazda?

 

[VCheng]

the name of the Persian Gulf has a deep meaning to Iranians, especially in light of recent attempts by others to rename it (including Trump as a way to insult Iranians)

while you are posting in the Iranian section, it seems reasonable to ask that you respect this

I did not mean it as an insult at all. What Trump might say is totally up to that clown. May be the Iranians can solve that problem once and for all?

 

[mangekyo]

This is part of a hybrid warfare strategy, not a conventional attack. A conventional attack has to be like the one in Iraq in 2003 or Vietnam in the 50s/60s; it requires a completely different level of preparation.

So they want to take out the missiles while Israel does the heavy bombing?

 

[mangekyo]

Why is Witkoff and Kushner in Russia?

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[Bharatah]

# Psychological/Military Objective of Threats
In hybrid warfare, repeating "invasion coming", "govt will fall", "lost control" is psychological destabilization (synergistic effect).

- Psychological/Military Objective

1. Population panic → Govt pressure (protests)
2. Resource drain: Targets disperse troops to borders
3. "Inevitable" narrative → Elite flees/investors leave
4. Peace/war threshold: Attacks without declaring war

-Strategic Phases

Phase​	Narrative Action​	Military Effect​
Pre-attack	"Imminent invasion!"	Mobilizes expensive army
During	"Govt lost!"	Internal collapse (coup)
Post	"Our victory"	Occupation acceptance

#Troops Without Classic Attack
Positioning troops without attacking is classic hybrid ("show of force"). Maintains ambiguity + pressure.

How It Works​

1. Move troops to border: "Humanitarian protection"2. Military exercises: "Routine training" 3. "Separatists request help": Enters as "peace"No war declaration → DOESN'T trigger NATO/UN

Real Examples​

Case​	Troops Without Attack​	Result​
Crimea 2014	"Green soldiers" (no insignia)	Annexed without battle
Ukraine 2021	100k troops at border	Pre-war economic panic
Taiwan/China	"Patrol" ships	Pressure without invasion

Goal: Forces reaction (govt spends) + tests defenses. Controlled escalation.

# External audience in Hybrid Warfare
For the external audience (outside the target country), the goal is diplomatic isolation + justification for intervention.

Specific External Objectives​

1. Global Public Opinion: "Victim suffers alone" → Support sanctions/intervention
2. Western Allies: "Unstable threat" → Reinforces NATO/US (weapons/money)
3. Neutrals: "Inevitable chaos" → No help to target (trade/diplomacy)
4. Legitimize Attack: "Illegitimate government" → Accepted as "humanitarian"

Narrative Strategy​

Audience​	Message​	Effect​
US/Europe	"Dictator represses!"	Sanctions + troops
China/BRICS	"Failed state"	Neutrality
Global Media	"Humanitarian crisis"	Pro-attacker coverage

Ex: Ukraine-Russia: West "Putin invades!" → US$100bi aid.

NOTE: The final conclusion is that all this information is fake news about hybrid warfare. That's why on December 31, 2025, they said that Iran had lost control of the country, while Reuters said 8 days ago that Iran would be invaded within 24 hours... every day more and more fake news emerges. The ultimate goal is to defeat Iran via hybrid warfare, which has worked in some places. If it doesn't work, they might stage a media attack like an assassination or kidnapping to simulate a media victory.

NOTE 2: If they launch any military media attack (at some point), they will release several fake news stories claiming that generals and ayatollahs have died and that there has been a collapse in the Iranian chain of command, purely as manipulative propaganda to convey the idea of a bankrupt and defeated Iran within a few hours.

 

[retaxis]

Can't do regime change without troops on the ground

Venezuela still has the same regime

 

[Indos]

Can't do regime change without troops on the ground

Venezuela still has the same regime

Israel love Iranian current regime. They will not try to change the regime, believe me. The regime that makes Iran seen as enemy of entire West and (Sunni) Arab

 

[Immortals]

Can't do regime change without troops on the ground

Venezuela still has the same regime

Full regime change (Saddam 2003) was proved to be disastrous. When they would have been better off keeping the Baathist party and military intact and installing another strong man.

The west doesn’t have appetites for boots on the ground anymore, they rather just bankrupt the country via sanctions and get armed goons to do their bidding (example Syria, Libya).

 

[mangekyo]

Israel love Iranian current regime. They will not try to change the regime, believe me. The regime that makes Iran seen as enemy of entire West and (Sunni) Arab

The regime that created the resistance mentality in Muslims? Without the Iranian regime, Muslims would have been more Zionists than the Israelis..