Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Lols....Beta qaidi 804 will not not come to see clear sky.
Bhutto also didn't see and then ... well, as they say, rest is history. We are in this world just for a while. We will see what happened to legacy of Qaidi 804 and that of his tormentor. BTW, if this unreleated one linear is your proof of tall claims about wiping an entire squadron on ground then what can I say more to prove your delusions.
 
Brigadier Gen ..... spent 19.5 years to safeguard your @ss and puki of your moma

Havaldar Sahib, you truly are a men among men, You were fighting the toughest battles in the Garrison Cafeteria, those Samosas stood no chance, rest assured your efforts to guard the kitchen won't be forgotten. 🫡

Please don't let the bloody keera machoras on this forum tell you otherwise
 
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@harpy1 Why did not engage and stop the above happening right accross the line of control...what happened to the Pak air force fighters on the 9th
You claim five losses but later when India hit you much harder on the 9th no losses occured just craters and holes on hardened shelters on all of the Pakistani bases ...Virtually all of them ...
What was in these shelters where are the planes
Where were they dispatched
What happened to your early warning radars I don't understand.

What a pathetic attempt at coping. I can show you each and every one of the 5 IAF Kills that I referenced. Can you show me a single PAF jet that was harmed? Your Air Force was grounded for TWO full days per your own military chief. You can’t rewrite history by projecting your failures on others. Not a single neutral observer buys India’s narrative. Stop embarrassing yourself.
@harpy1
 
May 25 was not about any military victory or destruction but display of intent and testing the limits of the nuclear deterrence. India indicated that it would not hesitate to cross again (like 2019), nuclear or no nuclear.

It was foolish to assume that you attack a country with professional defence forces and then say - Ok ok. Let’s be good now. That was as stupid as it could get. Must be a brain fade moment when this was thought out, that too with 2019 precedence as an evidence, that it would fail. Rafale gave them overconfidence. Poor trait for military leaders.

However, stupid or smart they were, they definitely didn’t want a full fledged war. Because that can go south in many ways.



I disagree with this. One can control a start but end is not in any body’s hand. Even on the 10th May, had Pakistan said that they too want some satellite pictures before a ceasefire, then it could have gone into something big. One can control the firing of the first bullet. Nothing after that.


Because my stupid people were expecting that they would do a precise attack and not allow it to escalate any further. There was no appetite for a full war. Didn’t turn out as they had expected and they had to go upto Brahmos, Scalp etc when it cooled down.

Had the premise been any more, the initial attack would have been more military in nature. However, it was more of a symbolic one against non-military targets.

They still offered a ceasefire after 7th May after initial strike. Ok, ok, let’s calm down was conveyed but turned down by Munir and “time and place of own choosing” was conveyed.

My point is that, this “time and place of choosing” wasn’t as stellar as it was assumed and as it is claimed by majority of Pak posters. BuM didn’t really produce the kind of results that got Munir one extra star.

Had a ceasefire been accepted on the 7th, imagine the Indian situation. Lost four fighters and attacked 11 terrorists targets. Worst possible optics.

Munir allowed Indian side to redeem a little by giving a chance to attack on 10th and getting huge narrative points. Those satellite images aren’t going anywhere, any time soon.

While Munir didn’t gain anything other than “I am telling you bro” kind of results. Very few people are asking - Kiya kya aapne during “place and time of own choosing”.
Are all your top of the line shot up jets also ‘I’m telling you bro’? they’re also not going anywhere just like your precious satellite images that you cling onto so desperately, which incidentally don’t show a single asset even damaged. Cope harder and longer.
 
@hasssanali8998

better yet 36 in flying formation . so leaves no doubt about their condition

Presumably, India could borrow x (no of Rafaels shot down) Rafaels from Dassault and fly 36 of them together?

Regards
that would be inefficient, though presumably would present an oppurtunity with the massive rafale package u ordered


The better solution for optics would just be paintjob and bakhts wont notice
 
@NationalistPKDude132

The better solution for optics would just be paintjob and bakhts wont notice

As far as us Bhakts are concerned, they could fly 36 Mig 21s together, we wouldn't know the difference between a Rafale and a M21 anyway. The question is how do IAF pull a fast one over the PDF stalwarts.

Regards
 
@NationalistPKDude132

The better solution for optics would just be paintjob and bakhts wont notice

As far as us Bhakts are concerned, they could fly 36 Mig 21s together, we wouldn't know the difference between a Rafale and a M21 anyway. The question is how do IAF pull a fast one over the PDF stalwarts.

Regards
publish inventory audit like how PAF did of their mirages back then........
 
Raises more questions then it answers. Where are the other planes? is this a paint job? Why do long after May.

Smell BS here
Which BS? 1,22 or 23?

However, it is also possible that the aircraft PAF marked as hit were potentially damaged and are now back in flyable condition.

It is also likely that without actual images of the wreckage you can paint any serial onto it especially if the manufacturer is in on it and I would not put it beneath Dassault to do so since their CEO claims none were shot down.
 
They have NEVER done that and will never do that. Partly also because it would either confirm actual assets which is a gain for PAF regardless of the facts it discloses.
publish inventory audit like how PAF did of their mirages back then........


If I have less aircraft I don’t want my enemy to know just as if I have aircraft still flying I don’t want my enemies to know.
 

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