Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

Following up on this, this deliberate weakning of Iran by internal traitors has emboldened the weakest c-ucks on earth (EU) to place IRGC on terror-list today.

Now you know why that lady is the Vp of EU......the Zios know who they can manipulate and who to support...it's no accident she's in the EU leadership now, same as Von der lydon.
I remember when she went to Israel for a talk, and the zios turned on the Air raid siren to scare the hell out of her.....she was laying down on the tarmac of the airport....I laughed my ass off, because I knew it was all staged to show her they were under attack and lived in fear......and of course she fell for it. They're setting her up to take over as the next President of the EU, when Von der Lydon leaves.

 

[Bahrami]

By putting the IRGC on the "last big" Terror List (EU), they have basically made sure that under no circumstances ever a internal revolution can now succeed.

All Military Personal are now more or less considered terrorists outside of Iran and can only survive inside. They will not change sides. Any hope of systemaic internal "unrest" has been killed with this move. And there are not enough bombs on the planet (excluding nukes) to bomb awa the entire military branch of Iran.

 

[PakSword]

Iran should fire everything in their arsenal at Israel within 24 hours of the first US strike.

If war prolongs, the US will destroy most of the weapons Iran has atm.

So don't wait Iran.. shoot Israel with everything you have got.. You are going to lose the war eventually, but you will win billions of hearts forever. Undo Israel or at least leave it like no one dare to live there for at least 25 years.

 

[Bharatah]

nothing new here

do they have enough fighter jets in the area to suppress dozens of SSM bases and hit all these targets at the same time?

These are fake news about hybrid warfare; nobody is going to reveal military attack secrets on the internet. It's to create a false sense of power, that "it's already won," a classic hybrid warfare strategy.

 

[kastor ville]

Iran desperately needs reform

Give Iranian of different types the freedom to be themselves and just enforce national law and culture whilst defending Iran's conservatives and religious

The problem is the enemies of Iran are forcing the issue and purposely creating a economic crisis


It's important if Iranians want to remain free that they don't fall for these tricks

Their won't be a rainbow at the other end of protests, it will be chaos and Iranians will suffer more then ever


The agitators and mossad are using protesters as cover to create instability

They had a chance to reform for years, but the fking Jalili types have been holding on to power, or even worse, sabotaging any normalization attempts. This is the reason I ridicule the hardliners, because they're idiots...their policy is why we are here now. They lack world experience, and have limited knowledge of global power and politics.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Iran should fire everything in their arsenal at Israel within 24 hours of the first US strike.

If war prolongs, the US will destroy most of the weapons Iran has atm.

So don't wait Iran.. shoot Israel with everything you have got.. You are going to lose the war eventually, but you will win billions of hearts forever. Undo Israel or at least leave it like no one dare to live there for at least 25 years.

There are enough missiles to destroy all the Jewish cities, but there are also enough missiles for American bases and ships.

I hope we will see the real and ultimate power of Iran soon.

My guess is 1,000 ballistic and cruise missiles per day and 1,000 drones per day.

 

[Immortals]

Iran can definitely open the gates of hell with its SRBMs against the US compared to MRBM against Israel

And then what? Will it be peacefully accepted into the economic integration of the 21st century?

Will capital flow to Iran to repair its infrastructure and invest in its badly neglected (yet lucrative) industries and sectors?

The answer is No.

Going out in <style> is what people are advocating for, but miss that there are 90M+ countrymen in Iran who will suffer the consequences.

Time to accept the legitimacy is gone and the era of Khamenai is coming to a close. Policy disaster after policy disaster put Iran in these conditions starting 20 years ago.

Unfortunately, even if Iran decides to go all out, they will ultimately have to negotiate with the U.S. The only strategy now is try to negotiate with some cards so it’s not complete capitulation.

The SRBMs are pinpoint accurate and Iran possesses thousands of them compared to MRBMs and can be launched very quick from disguised launchers/containers

They are not “pinpoint” accurate as strikes against ISIS in Syria showed as well as strikes against Kurdistan headquarters or against terrorists in Pakistan lawless border.

Any improved accuracy vs LR missiles is due to distance. It’s well known a gyroscope loses accuracy the longer the missile is in the air due to vibrational effects. So naturally a 200KM missile gyroscope will retain its accuracy longer than a 2000KM missile given the much shorter flight time.

 

[925boy]

I agree with a lot what you said but i desagree about "Sunnis", let me explain my point of view because i'm muslim and a sunni :

1. Don't confuse Wahhabism with Sunni Islam.
2. Don't confuse countries created by zionist treaties and that have many Sunnis within them as "Sunni nations." In fact, in the Sunni religion/Islam in general, the notion of "country" as the West implants it today doesn't even exist.
3. There hasn't been a Sunni military front since the fall of the Sultan (1908). Young Turks and Atatürk were already secular, controlled by Zionism/the West, and even banned the veil, Islam in general, and even tariqas.
4. That's why these countries did nothing for the Palestinians, as they are puppet governments of the West/Israel (with the small exception of some politics within Qatar; the rest is all dominated).
5. Present-day Turkey is controlled by NATO, with American and European bases and even a US atomic bomb inside the country; they are hostages.
6- Because the current West is controlled by the Zionist Jewish lobby, every Muslim is portrayed as a terrorist here, in the media, etc. The notion of "progressive Muslim" only exists in the minds of those being manipulated; in the media, every Muslim is a terrorist, and those who obey the US are depicted as uncivilized and weak like native Indians in old americas.

NOTE: I'll try to explain it another way. Brazil is a country currently dominated by the US/Israel. Now imagine that a country like Brazil (which has only 1% Muslim population) converted en masse to Islam and ended up with 70-80% Sunni Muslims. Would it become an "Islamic nation"?... No, in reality, it would be a place dominated by the US and Israel with a lot of Sunni Muslims inside. That's exactly what Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, etc. are...

Thanks for your points, I really enjoy your perspectives.

Sunnis as a group are currently low in self awareness and true pride as Muslims, so sure, they wont do crap when US and Israel hit Iran again.

But there is a high chance that US assasinating Khamenei will cause a global uprising amongst the Shia in the world - Shia will rise and fight if they are threatened in any serious way and they will not wait for the Sunnis to join them In the ensuing struggle against US and Israel.
After US attacks Iran and their conflict develops/starts, many of you will see what Soleimani prepared for US and Israel in the ME region and world. just wait. Silence isn't fear or incompetence.

Its probably a 0% chance that Hezbollah doesnt reactivate and attack israel or/and US if US kills Khameini. Why? Because that is a direct attack on Velayat-e -Faqih, which is the system that hezbollah is built on and lives by and exists for.

US and israel have been unable to defeat the AoR in over 4 decades, i doubt they will dismantle it this time.

 

[جوبا]

Israel desalination plants
It's high tech industry that represents 60% of its economy
It's centralised power structure
It's gas extraction in the med

Here let me raise you something better:
1. Rothschild Boulevard
2. TelAviv Stock Exchange

 

[Immortals]

My guess is 1,000 ballistic and cruise missiles per day and 1,000 drones per day.

Highly optimistic at best

nothing new here

do they have enough fighter jets in the area to suppress dozens of SSM bases and hit all these targets at the same time?

We shall see. Of course Iran will get its punches in. But if history is any indication, Iran will continue to surprise us with incompetence and underperformance.

Iran hasn’t directly had a successful tactic/performance since saving Assad in 2013-2015. It excels at getting foreign legions and proxy warfare, but direct conflict is its weakness.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

There are enough missiles to destroy all the Jewish cities, but there are also enough missiles for American bases and ships.

No. If Iran really would have ability to demonstrate what you are suggesting then that means total deterrence. US would not have dared to bring so called "Armada" and threaten Iran or drop bombs on its nuclear facilities last year.

Yes Iran has ability to fire capable ballistic missiles at enemy locations but it cannot "destroy" "all of Jewish cities" Or "all of US bases" etc.

 

[925boy]

This is why the American empire is ending.....everyone hates a bully.
BRICs, Shanghai cooperation Council...the de-dollarization trade...etc.
EU building up their armies, and signing cooperation pacts. etc.
It took an idiot like Trump to speed up the process, the dollar is crashing, and banks are buying gold by the wheelbarrow to move away from the Dollar, meanwhile he thinks he's making America great. It's a tragedy

This is a great summary and post. Well described! Cheers.

 

[wangdefa]

If China helps noone, then it will be alone when the West finally comes for it. The attacks on Venezuela and Iran are part of choking off China energy supply and using energy long term as a weapon.

We don't care, I think you're in a country that's extremely insecure, so the first thing you think of is cliques. I'm in China, a nuclear power with Trine, I don't have to worry about being bombed, our leaders don't have to worry about being kidnapped. What if we don't align with the world? We don't care. Under the existing industrial system, we produce enough new equipment every year to equip a medium-sized country. If any country wants to buy it, it does not need moral coercion, just show your sincerity.

 

[Watandar]

We don't care, I think you're in a country that's extremely insecure, so the first thing you think of is cliques. I'm in China, a nuclear power with Trine, I don't have to worry about being bombed, our leaders don't have to worry about being kidnapped. What if we don't align with the world? We don't care. Under the existing industrial system, we produce enough new equipment every year to equip a medium-sized country. If any country wants to buy it, it does not need moral coercion, just show your sincerity.

That fine. When you are surrounded and being choked by the Americans a few decades from now, because all their building blocks will be in place, then we shall see how worried you really are or how your industry handles it. A $900 billion defense budget needs big enemies.

 

[kastor ville]

This is a great summary and post. Well described! Cheers.

Thanks..it's a lot worse than I'm letting on..........read this

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