Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakSword]

The US doesn't have full backing of NATO this time.

If Iran sinks just one ship, the US will try to negotiate to end the war.

 

[hussain0216]

Looks good, but a waste of missiles given that those missiles do not have the CEP to cause damage that can take out Nevatim AB. Nevatim AB is a hard military target.

I do think Iran has "learnt" that lesson, and there are much more softer targets in Israel with higher economic and military value that Iran can destroy within the CEP range of its missiles. Iran can get more "value" from its missiles if it deploys them against the correct type of targets.

If this does kick off again, then Iran should actually "pick up from where it left things at the end of the conflict with Israel" as it did some things that hurt Israel at the very very end.

Israel desalination plants
It's high tech industry that represents 60% of its economy
It's centralised power structure
It's gas extraction in the med

 

[Shags101]

You could be describing any US politician regardless of the political party in charge.

True but no one has gone over the top more than trump has honestly I think this guy is about to cause needless death to boys and girls over there that has nothing to do with America

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Are you for real asking this question after what happened in last couple of years and unpredictability of current and any new potential american presidents?

What happened? It's business as usual.

American influence is decreasing and Chinese influence is increasing. But the US is still attacking smaller nations as and when it feels like, like it has done decade-after-decade.

It won't directly attack China or Russia though, just play games with them.

 

[925boy]

IRi has support, no doubt but nobody knows to what extent.

For the West, Khamenei would be an amazing trophy to kidnap and a satisfying kill if possible. Trump has claimed back in July he stopped the Israelis from assassinating him, but that was because Trump wanted a "deal".

The truth of the matter is that US and Israel were unable to actually locate Khamenei during the 12 day war last year.TUS +Israel already wanted to kill him then,but they couldn't, and i am not surprised.

Why? How long did it take the US military and intelligence communities to assassinate Bin Laden? A loooong time. They also were not able to find Al
-Zahwahiri,OBL's replacement, either.

 

[Abid123]

Really now?

What is wrong with what he said?

 

[VCheng]

it is necessary to restore deterrence, since Iranian performance in the last round clearly was not good enough to establish prolonged deterrence

That position is entirely undestandable.

 

[VCheng]

Fatal policy errors could lead the regime to lose power and destroy the country. I previously agreed with your point in the previous PDF and in this thread that religion and state affairs should never intertwine. That fatwa sealed their downfall, and their loud public statements worsened the situation.

May not be now or tomorrow, but eventually we will all have to stand for the Janaza.

Their country, their rules. We must respect them for their choices.

 

[VCheng]

Were the demands ever going to be anything else from the Americans ?

I cannot say. Where is this knowledge of what the US demands are actually coming from?

 

[Immortals]

 

[Persian Gulf]

nothing new here

do they have enough fighter jets in the area to suppress dozens of SSM bases and hit all these targets at the same time?

 

[kastor ville]

Following up on this, this deliberate weakning of Iran by internal traitors has emboldened the weakest c-ucks on earth (EU) to place IRGC on terror-list today.

Now you know why that lady is the Vp of EU......the Zios know who they can manipulate and who to support...it's no accident she's in the EU leadership now, same as Von der lydon.
I remember when she went to Israel for a talk, and the zios turned on the Air raid siren to scare the hell out of her.....she was laying down on the tarmac of the airport....I laughed my ass off, because I knew it was all staged to show her they were under attack and lived in fear......and of course she fell for it. They're setting her up to take over as the next President of the EU, when Von der Lydon leaves.

 

[Bahrami]

By putting the IRGC on the "last big" Terror List (EU), they have basically made sure that under no circumstances ever a internal revolution can now succeed.

All Military Personal are now more or less considered terrorists outside of Iran and can only survive inside. They will not change sides. Any hope of systemaic internal "unrest" has been killed with this move. And there are not enough bombs on the planet (excluding nukes) to bomb awa the entire military branch of Iran.

 

[PakSword]

Iran should fire everything in their arsenal at Israel within 24 hours of the first US strike.

If war prolongs, the US will destroy most of the weapons Iran has atm.

So don't wait Iran.. shoot Israel with everything you have got.. You are going to lose the war eventually, but you will win billions of hearts forever. Undo Israel or at least leave it like no one dare to live there for at least 25 years.

 

[Bharatah]

nothing new here

do they have enough fighter jets in the area to suppress dozens of SSM bases and hit all these targets at the same time?

These are fake news about hybrid warfare; nobody is going to reveal military attack secrets on the internet. It's to create a false sense of power, that "it's already won," a classic hybrid warfare strategy.