Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

Iran can definitely open the gates of hell with its SRBMs against the US compared to MRBM against Israel

The SRBMs are pinpoint accurate and Iran possesses thousands of them compared to MRBMs and can be launched very quick from disguised launchers/containers

If the GCC has truly refused to support this attack, does that mean it limits the ingress of the US to the Indian Ocean and Iraq ? Then only the SRBM's on Iraqi bases would matter and Iran will have to find some way to attack the American ships way out in the ocean.

Might frankly be best to just attack Israel as they are who are pushing for all this.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Looks good, but a waste of missiles given that those missiles do not have the CEP to cause damage that can take out Nevatim AB. Nevatim AB is a hard military target.

I do think Iran has "learnt" that lesson, and there are much more softer targets in Israel with higher economic and military value that Iran can destroy within the CEP range of its missiles. Iran can get more "value" from its missiles if it deploys them against the correct type of targets.

If this does kick off again, then Iran should actually "pick up from where it left things at the end of the conflict with Israel" as it did some things that hurt Israel at the very very end.

 

[kastor ville]

I was invited here back in '09. I read variations of your arguments since then. Some comments said Venezuela will bring US down.

Yeah...you're a military guy, you don't a whole lot about the market/finance, why do I say that? Because I've also heard about the demise of the empire as long as you have, but something changed.....the sanction regime which were ironically used to bring Iran down, was so alamaring that for the first time in history countries got serious about protecting themselves, that's why for the first time in history we have an alternative to SWIFT, we have BRICs, and we have a rapid adoption rate of digital currencies. All of it designed to move away from the dollar. So again the tool that was used to bring down Iran, has now led to the demise of the dollar.
Also, have you seen the $ chart? It's never been this bad.....as long as I can remember, it's sliding hard. Lastly, why do think gold is at an all time high? Gold has always been a hedge for the stock market, if stocks were up gold was down..if stocks were down, gold was up. Now, they're both at an all time high......why? Because banks are moving dollars off their balance sheets and moving into gold to preserve their buying power.

 

[kastor ville]

Xijinping president has previously expounded on China's foreign policy, stating that China will do its best to prevent the world from falling into a new Cold War.
China cannot support every anti-American country like the Soviet Union did. Take Iran as an example. If China were to support Iran, it would cost trillions of dollars, but China cannot earn trillions of dollars in foreign exchange from trade with Iran.This is a losing proposition for China.

Kudos to China, they've been masterful, they bought oil from Iran and Venezuela to shore up their economies, there is no sanction on China itself they can buy oil from Russia, Canada, Nigeria, heck, even the US. But, they're doing a nice job of supporting the BRICs block.
PS: of course getting oil at a discounted price is never a bad thing for them.

 

[PakSword]

The US doesn't have full backing of NATO this time.

If Iran sinks just one ship, the US will try to negotiate to end the war.

 

[hussain0216]

Looks good, but a waste of missiles given that those missiles do not have the CEP to cause damage that can take out Nevatim AB. Nevatim AB is a hard military target.

I do think Iran has "learnt" that lesson, and there are much more softer targets in Israel with higher economic and military value that Iran can destroy within the CEP range of its missiles. Iran can get more "value" from its missiles if it deploys them against the correct type of targets.

If this does kick off again, then Iran should actually "pick up from where it left things at the end of the conflict with Israel" as it did some things that hurt Israel at the very very end.

Israel desalination plants
It's high tech industry that represents 60% of its economy
It's centralised power structure
It's gas extraction in the med

 

[Shags101]

You could be describing any US politician regardless of the political party in charge.

True but no one has gone over the top more than trump has honestly I think this guy is about to cause needless death to boys and girls over there that has nothing to do with America

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Are you for real asking this question after what happened in last couple of years and unpredictability of current and any new potential american presidents?

What happened? It's business as usual.

American influence is decreasing and Chinese influence is increasing. But the US is still attacking smaller nations as and when it feels like, like it has done decade-after-decade.

It won't directly attack China or Russia though, just play games with them.

 

[925boy]

IRi has support, no doubt but nobody knows to what extent.

For the West, Khamenei would be an amazing trophy to kidnap and a satisfying kill if possible. Trump has claimed back in July he stopped the Israelis from assassinating him, but that was because Trump wanted a "deal".

The truth of the matter is that US and Israel were unable to actually locate Khamenei during the 12 day war last year.TUS +Israel already wanted to kill him then,but they couldn't, and i am not surprised.

Why? How long did it take the US military and intelligence communities to assassinate Bin Laden? A loooong time. They also were not able to find Al
-Zahwahiri,OBL's replacement, either.

 

[Abid123]

Really now?

What is wrong with what he said?

 

[VCheng]

it is necessary to restore deterrence, since Iranian performance in the last round clearly was not good enough to establish prolonged deterrence

That position is entirely undestandable.

 

[VCheng]

Fatal policy errors could lead the regime to lose power and destroy the country. I previously agreed with your point in the previous PDF and in this thread that religion and state affairs should never intertwine. That fatwa sealed their downfall, and their loud public statements worsened the situation.

May not be now or tomorrow, but eventually we will all have to stand for the Janaza.

Their country, their rules. We must respect them for their choices.

 

[VCheng]

Were the demands ever going to be anything else from the Americans ?

I cannot say. Where is this knowledge of what the US demands are actually coming from?

 

[Immortals]

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[Persian Gulf]

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nothing new here

do they have enough fighter jets in the area to suppress dozens of SSM bases and hit all these targets at the same time?