Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

no more Hezbollahs, Assads, PMFs, PIJs or Hamas exists in its way anymore.
I believe that is the terms China has set. FIC is going to invest heavily in the M.E and they need stability for that. This means all proxies have to go. But I am not optimistic of what Larijani-Irans role will be in the new world order. I believe PGCC will reap the greatest benefits through their wealth funds, Turkey second. The losers will be Israel who is getting asset stripped by UAE, and Iran who is effectively becoming a Chinese vassal state through economic dependence
 
The person I responded to stated that the U.S. would destroy Iran's air force and navy in that case. I answered that it doesn't matter whatsoever. America's response would be severe yes, but the fact remains that Iran can close the straits.

It's astonishing that you think that Iran can't close it for a long period of time,

I do believe that Iran can close the strait of hormuz, but I don't believe that Iraqi rag tag militias can do that. Also, I do know the consequences of attacking US interests and oil supplies will be all-out war at Iran. That's why Iran don't do that. Iran do not want to escalate things with US and rightly so.
 
Almost half of China’s oil imports pass through Hormuz. If Iran were to disrupt PGCC oil and gas flows and close the strait, it would not only be waging war on the U.S and the PGCC, but on China as well. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
This is what was agreed under the jcpoa trump broke........

The policy of both USA and Iran towards each other, over the last several decades, is obviously the work of more than just one person.
 
Almost half of China’s oil imports pass through Hormuz. If Iran were to disrupt PGCC oil and gas flows and close the strait, it would not only be waging war on the U.S and the PGCC, but on China as well. Correct me if I am wrong.

They are looking to switch over to the China-Iran railway as part of China's Belt and Road initiative. Not sure how far down this they are though. China/Iran could look to build a over land pipeline to reduce its dependency to zero if they want.
 


China’s deployment of advanced stealth destroyers near the Iranian coast is far from a routine drill. Rather, it stands as a direct challenge to the United States and its forces, which have been threatening war against Iran.

The vessel featured in the attached video is a Chinese Type 055 destroyer—specifically the CNS Nanchang (Hull 101) of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN). Classified as a large guided-missile destroyer, this class entered service in 2020 and represents one of China's largest and most modern warships.

The trilateral exercises between China, Russia, and Iran are set to take place in the Strait of Hormuz, the Gulf of Oman, and the Indian Ocean—regions that constitute the core of U.S. military deployment.


The message is both clear and logical:
The U.S. hints at war.
China and Russia respond on the ground.
Iran is no longer alone.

The presence of Chinese naval assets in a strait through which approximately 20% of the world's oil flows implies that any attack on Iran could escalate into a major international crisis.

This maneuver constitutes an open challenge to U.S. alliances in the region and serves as a clear signal that the era of unilateral military hegemony in the Gulf is approaching its end.
 
Imagine how thrilling it'd be when war breaks out and Tomahawk missiles fired towards Iranian targets are shot down by Chinese SAMs from that destroyer.

If China doesn't want Iran to close Hormuz then it has to defend Iran. If Iran is left to get destroyed alone by US/IDF, then it is fair game for Iran to take out everyone else down with it. So if China doesn't want to defend, then they can't complain if Iran wants to close Hormuz, since Iran has the right to get back at Gulf countries who host US bases. Closing Hormuz is fair game if IRI is forced to fight USA and IDF/GCC all alone...
 
Imagine how thrilling it'd be when war breaks out

That is only juvenile silliness. War is a horrible thing, and thrilling only to those sitting far away in Malaysia, for example.
 
That is only juvenile silliness. War is a horrible thing, and thrilling only to those sitting far away in Malaysia, for example.
I meant to say thrilling when those destroyers shoot down Tomahawks, since the US won't anticipate China would finally do something at all to protect its oil supply and investments in the Middle East.

Remember I'm not the one threatening war here; it's Trump and Zion. So why can't I find it to be "thrilling" when soldiers from aggressor nations die? They're the ones who started the threats to Iran first.
 


China’s deployment of advanced stealth destroyers near the Iranian coast is far from a routine drill. Rather, it stands as a direct challenge to the United States and its forces, which have been threatening war against Iran.

The vessel featured in the attached video is a Chinese Type 055 destroyer—specifically the CNS Nanchang (Hull 101) of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN). Classified as a large guided-missile destroyer, this class entered service in 2020 and represents one of China's largest and most modern warships.

The trilateral exercises between China, Russia, and Iran are set to take place in the Strait of Hormuz, the Gulf of Oman, and the Indian Ocean—regions that constitute the core of U.S. military deployment.


The message is both clear and logical:
The U.S. hints at war.
China and Russia respond on the ground.
Iran is no longer alone.

The presence of Chinese naval assets in a strait through which approximately 20% of the world's oil flows implies that any attack on Iran could escalate into a major international crisis.

This maneuver constitutes an open challenge to U.S. alliances in the region and serves as a clear signal that the era of unilateral military hegemony in the Gulf is approaching its end.

Yea , one or two Chinese destroyers will change the balance of power in the region....who are these people writing such crap and who are the morons buying this crap?
 
Imagine how thrilling it'd be when war breaks out and Tomahawk missiles fired towards Iranian targets are shot down by Chinese SAMs from that destroyer.

If China doesn't want Iran to close Hormuz then it has to defend Iran. If Iran is left to get destroyed alone by US/IDF, then it is fair game for Iran to take out everyone else down with it. So if China doesn't want to defend, then they can't complain if Iran wants to close Hormuz, since Iran has the right to get back at Gulf countries who host US bases. Closing Hormuz is fair game if IRI is forced to fight USA and IDF/GCC all alone...
Iran can't take down anything worthwhile...Iran can do lots of pinpricks though and can also win the shouting match .
 
Yea , one or two Chinese destroyers will change the balance of power in the region....who are these people writing such crap and who are the morons buying this crap?
Marginally.
As targets are quite near the US armada, it is easy to modify the cuise missiles flights (with one or mode detours) so as to avoid the chinese SAM.

The russian fleet in the east med didn't make a threat to west cruise missile salvo against Syria.
 
They are looking to switch over to the China-Iran railway as part of China's Belt and Road initiative. Not sure how far down this they are though. China/Iran could look to build a over land pipeline to reduce its dependency to zero if they want.
Iran doesn’t have a 6mbpd production capacity.
 
Houthis "limited capability" led to US losing 3 F-18 jets from one carrier in a few months

imagine if they had less limited capability

Well I did say limited they got pretty damn close but quantity and quality make Houthis and Irans capabilities in a different class
 

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