Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

since the US won't anticipate China would finally do something at all

Two false premises right there.

 

[BonPlan]

Yea , one or two Chinese destroyers will change the balance of power in the region....who are these people writing such crap and who are the morons buying this crap?

Marginally.
As targets are quite near the US armada, it is easy to modify the cuise missiles flights (with one or mode detours) so as to avoid the chinese SAM.

The russian fleet in the east med didn't make a threat to west cruise missile salvo against Syria.

 

[mangekyo]

They are looking to switch over to the China-Iran railway as part of China's Belt and Road initiative. Not sure how far down this they are though. China/Iran could look to build a over land pipeline to reduce its dependency to zero if they want.

Iran doesn’t have a 6mbpd production capacity.

 

[Shags101]

Houthis "limited capability" led to US losing 3 F-18 jets from one carrier in a few months

imagine if they had less limited capability

A US Navy aircraft carrier that lost 3 fighter jets to the Red Sea is sailing home

The USS Harry S. Truman has experienced a string of mishaps amid its combat deployment, during which it battled the Houthis.

www.yahoo.com

Well I did say limited they got pretty damn close but quantity and quality make Houthis and Irans capabilities in a different class

 

[Viet]

Yea , one or two Chinese destroyers will change the balance of power in the region....who are these people writing such crap and who are the morons buying this crap?

Chinese only jump in when war breaks out in Vietnam or Korea.
The possibility the Chinese intervene in foreign wars is almost 0, in the case of Iran it’s below 0. Same like Venezuela, Cuba or Nigeria or dinosaurs lands.
People should be a bit more realistic.

 

[Shags101]

Chinese only jump in when war breaks out in Vietnam or Korea.
The possibility the Chinese intervene in foreign wars is almost 0, in the case of Iran it’s below 0. Same like Venezuela, Cuba or Nigeria.

Truth is china doesn’t need to jump in war if it wants to take a page out of trumps book a show of force is all that’s needed and everyone goes back to living day by day trump isn’t going to risk accidentally hitting a Chinese ship or personal.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

Chinese only jump in when war breaks out in Vietnam or Korea.
The possibility the Chinese intervene in foreign wars is almost 0, in the case of Iran it’s below 0. Same like Venezuela, Cuba or Nigeria or dinosaurs lands.
People should be a bit more realistic.

What about Pakistan?

 

[Viet]

What about Pakistan?

The Chinese will likely provide everything you need but they won’t send men to the ground. It comes down to China own survival in the case of Korea and Vietnam.

 

[tsunset]

Houthis didn't need Iranian soldiers in Yemen to push the US back, sink their fighter jets, down hundreds of their drones and land monster kills on Saudi coalition

Iran doesn't need them either, neither Chinese or Russian direct help which we witnessed were ineffective and useless in Syria

 

[Shags101]

Houthis didn't need Iranian soldiers in Yemen to push the US back, sink their fighter jets, down hundreds of their drones and land monster kills on Saudi coalition

Iran doesn't need them either, neither Chinese or Russian direct help which we witnessed were ineffective and useless in Syria

Russia was instrumental with air power against Isis and insurgents in Syria Iranian Hezbollah and Syrian forces would have lost a lot more troops without it shows you how much air power is needed….i don’t think china was actually involved in Syria militarily.

American forces lost those fighters from not securing those fighters in defensive maneuvering give it to the Houthis for scaring the out of them but Houthis have had a lot of success taking out American drones honestly better than Iran did with Israel.

Without Iranian involvement how would have Houthis been able to fight off Saudi Arabia Yemen forces and whatever other coalition came at them it was Iranian weapons and perhaps even training that helped Houthis it was teamwork for sure.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Trump:

Qasem Soleimani was the military leader of Iran.

If he lived, that attack we made on Iran would not have been the same thing. He was a great general.

They don’t have that now.

 

[mangekyo]

Russia was instrumental with air power against Isis and insurgents in Syria Iranian Hezbollah and Syrian forces would have lost a lot more troops without it shows you how much air power is needed….i don’t think china was actually involved in Syria militarily.

American forces lost those fighters from not securing those fighters in defensive maneuvering give it to the Houthis for scaring the out of them but Houthis have had a lot of success taking out American drones honestly better than Iran did with Israel.

Without Iranian involvement how would have Houthis been able to fight off Saudi Arabia Yemen forces and whatever other coalition came at them it was Iranian weapons and perhaps even training that helped Houthis it was teamwork for sure.

You’re contradicting yourself a little bit. UAE/Saudi coalition had a modern fleet. Yemen didn’t have a single jet, but still managed to beat the shit out of the coalition

 

[CrniLabud]

Imagine how thrilling it'd be when war breaks out and Tomahawk missiles fired towards Iranian targets are shot down by Chinese SAMs from that destroyer.

If China doesn't want Iran to close Hormuz then it has to defend Iran. If Iran is left to get destroyed alone by US/IDF, then it is fair game for Iran to take out everyone else down with it. So if China doesn't want to defend, then they can't complain if Iran wants to close Hormuz, since Iran has the right to get back at Gulf countries who host US bases. Closing Hormuz is fair game if IRI is forced to fight USA and IDF/GCC all alone...

All of this is tied to China. First the US interfered in Panama, then Venezuela, all of China’s energy and shipping routes, now is Iran, goal is to take over energy sources from China and make them play by US rules. Next will be Russia via a US-Russia reapproachment which may nit eliminate all energy from Russia to China, but will be partially influenced by US as leverage. China should take a stand and protect its energy sources and its part of the world.

 

[tsunset]

Russia was instrumental with air power against Isis and insurgents in Syria Iranian Hezbollah and Syrian forces would have lost a lot more troops without it shows you how much air power is needed….i don’t think china was actually involved in Syria militarily.

American forces lost those fighters from not securing those fighters in defensive maneuvering give it to the Houthis for scaring the out of them but Houthis have had a lot of success taking out American drones honestly better than Iran did with Israel.

Without Iranian involvement how would have Houthis been able to fight off Saudi Arabia Yemen forces and whatever other coalition came at them it was Iranian weapons and perhaps even training that helped Houthis it was teamwork for sure.

Yes they bombed ISIS but what happened at the end?

Houthis landed monster kills on UAE and Saudi Arabia without any Iranian help, this was in 2014-15-16 when Iran wasn't yet involved with missile transfers, they actually scored those massive kills with Tochka BM, not Iranian ones, and scored more than 500+ kills in only 3 strikes

2015 Marib attack - Wikipedia

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2015 Taiz attack - Wikipedia

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2016 Al Anad Air Base missile attack - Wikipedia

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[Shags101]

You’re contradicting yourself a little bit. UAE/Saudi coalition had a modern fleet. Yemen didn’t have a single jet, but still managed to beat the shit out of the coalition

Not really Saudis at the time were just flying fancy planes with no real war experience they were leading a war instead of just tagging along like they have been in American pushed wars.

I have never said Houthis fighting in their home turf didn’t put a beating to anyone who stepped foot on their areas honestly give it up to them they fought more courageously than any army.