Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[RescueRanger]

How about we abolish ALL provinces and create UK style counties??
Also, amend the name of country to "Islamic Republic of Pakistan of Indus River Civilization".

Yes this would be workable but would the locals of each province agree?

 

[SteppeWolff]

Wonderful post. Yaar I came back from Zhob a few days back let me tell you, all this talk of OPS and security, is all gas.

Bhai jan I am from Pishin-Kila Abdullah. Hum bhi Ops ka chooran khaate hain aur bharosa kr lete hain. Halaat aap mujh say behtar jaante hain. Its quite depressing. Most of the province is a no-go area.

 

[RescueRanger]

Bhai jan I am from Pishin-Kila Abdullah. Hum bhi Ops ka chooran khaate hain aur bharosa kr lete hain. Halaat aap mujh say behtar jaante hain. Its quite depressing. Most of the province is a no-go area.

God bless you, yes Pishin is a real hotbed and we have always been sold that one tablet that all is well. The reality is in front of you.

Yaar ab tu dukh hota hain woi broken record sun sun kar.

 

[El Sidd]

There are solutions. There isn't the will or lets say the incentive to find a solution.

Empty rhetoric no real solution provided.

How about we abolish ALL provinces and create UK style counties??
Also, amend the name of country to "Islamic Republic of Pakistan of Indus River Civilization".

What's with the obsession with Islam?

 

[RescueRanger]

Empty rhetoric no real solution provided.

What's with the obsession with Islam?

Okay okay, we will name it the Democratic Republic instead. Happy now?

 

[ARMalik]

What's with the obsession with Islam?

No obsession just cold logic. Islam is the glue which is holding all these so many ethnicities together. There is no other way to keep all these people together.

 

[El Sidd]

Okay okay, we will name it the Democratic Republic instead. Happy now?

Sardar Federation
Wadera Republic

Anything you like. Just sign the affidavit that you people are reneging on Objective Resolution under no Duress.

No obsession just cold logic. Islam is the glue which is holding all these so many ethnicities together. There is no other way to keep all these people together.

They keep fighting like cats and dogs. Most people on this forum have been vocal about how religion cannot form basis of a country. Stop the charade and embrace the Indus. Maybe before it's diverted

 

[RescueRanger]

Sardar Federation
Wadera Republic

Anything you like. Just sign the affidavit that you people are reneging on Objective Resolution under no Duress.


They keep fighting like cats and dogs. Most people on this forum have been vocal about how religion cannot form basis of a country. Stop the charade and embrace the Indus. Maybe before it's diverted

Wadera Republic has a nice ring to it.

 

[Goenitz]

Idher AP wo DI Khan, Bhakkar or Mainwali tak ponch gayen hain aur hum drum Bajaney ke alawa Kuch nahi kartey.

God help all the blowheards when the shit really hits the fan.

I know some Punjabi Baloch people live in the Siraiki belt, but they are not as resentful, are they!

Locals are just stuck in a rock and a hard place. Openly support the government and BLA will cause "problems" for you. Support BLA and security forces will come knocking in.

That is the right diagnosis. There is a Hadith meaning people near judgement day will be momin in the morning and an infidel in the evening (moving from post to post).
Drawing a parallel, in any uncertainty, people have no fixed belief or reliance. They just got shuffled between 2 powers without any say. I was born in Zhob. My maternal family was settled there before 47 (my nana was a Pashtun). Sadly, all migrated to the Punjab side after too many threats (not in 47 but in 2007). Those who are stuck are in peril.

People of Bannu and Dera Ismail Khan are some of the dumbest people on the planet. We set our own house on fire for others lol. Serves us right. Pashteen who used to study on quota in Gomal uni used to live in Dikhan

Whose job is to educate or brainwash (some might say) them for their country, political process or state? First, It is the government's job through schools, media, etc., and then through inclusion by giving them representation. Then it is the job of politicians, influential people, and opinion makers. Do we value such people or just pick conformists as a federation?

These (Baloch) are the same people who opted for Pakistan. I bet they were more jahil at that time than now. So, they opted for Pakistan and now somehow got radicalised and became traitors? and if not, we have failed in educating them and made them more jahil before the 47 era.
Also, this is for @hussain0216, who always labels them ignorant, as they were born like that. It is the state's failure that they turned/grew up like that!

 

[RescueRanger]

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[RescueRanger]

I know some Punjabi Baloch people live in the Siraiki belt, but they are not as resentful? are they!

That is the right diagnosis. There is a Hadith meaning people near judgement day will be momin in the morning and infidel in the evening (moving from post to post).
Drawing a parallel, in any uncertainty, people have no fixed belief or reliance. They just got shuffled between 2 powers without any say. I was born in Zhob. My maternal family was settled there before 47 (my nana was a Pashtun). Sadly, all migrated to the Punjab side after too many threats.

Whose job is to educate or brainwash (some might say) them for their country, political process or state? First, It is the government job through schools, media, etc., and then through inclusion by giving them representation. Then it is the job of politicians, influential people, and opinion makers.
These are the same people who opted for Pakistan. I bet they were more jahil at that time than now. So, they opted for Pakistan and now somehow got radicalised and became traitors? and if not, we have failed in educating them.
Also, this is for @hussain0216, who always labels them ignorant, as they were born like that. It is the state's failure that they turned/grew up like that!

Awesome post bro. Bro honestly the average Baloch is not resentful(anyi-state), I have both lived and worked in Balochistan and they want what the rest of Pakistan wants - security, jobs, safety, education and prosperity.

But feudal systems are difficult to reset.

Most people who comment most vocally on Balochistan have never really spent any meaningful time there.

 

[El Sidd]

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Sayeen to Sayeen. Sayeen ki democracy vi Sayeen.

 

[Goenitz]

Awesome post bro. Bro honestly the average Baloch is not resentful(anyi-state), I have both lived and worked in Balochistan and they want what the rest of Pakistan wants - security, jobs, safety, education and prosperity.

But feudal systems are difficult to reset.

Most people who comment most vocally on Balochistan have never really spent any meaningful time there.

In my entire stay (now I have nearly migrated) in Pakistan, I never met a makrani, qalati or lasbela side baloch in school, or who is a shop owner, etc. Yes, there were Punjabi Baloch (e.g. Qandeel Baloch), which I have come across.
The only time I met a makrani was when I was in Italy. He was a PhD scholar on HEC program. That is how much we are isolated internally. Similarly, we are not inter-dependent racially, politically, or economically (a few things like water, wheat, etc) as all ethnicities and regions live in a micro self-sustaining environment. I think even religiously we are not strongly linked to each other. How long will this marriage of convenience last if we do not value each other equally? All Baloch would align with the centre if they are given amenities like Sarafraz Bugti.

Yes, tribal systems are very rigid. I have argued many times that tribal societies behave under pressure (IEA, Gulf, Baloch). They need strict laws and the use of force. However, that force or pressure could be financial, economic, social, etc. For example, if there is a good trade activity (not a predatory one or like a colonial power), people will themselves put effort to stick together. @M. Sarmad is the best person to comment on this.

 

[muz]

Quite a lot of people have been saying it for years that they should remove the Pashtun Majority areas from Balochistan and part of the problem would be solved
but our genius 1000 iq minds at GHQ never learn from the past

 

[aurelianpilled]

So, as per Reuters, BLA had Noushki under their control for three whole days before the military wrestled it back from the militants by deploying additional troops, helicopters, and drones.

Are they exaggerating or what? I mean, how can a ragtag militia without any proper heavy weaponry 'hold' a big town like this? We have seen how the BLA militants just ran away on the sight of our MRAP (Sariyab road, Quetta encounter?), but they 'held' Noushki for three days?!?! wtf? Massive local support is my honest guess, if this is indeed true, because Noushki is one of the biggest BLA hubs out there.