Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

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[Liquidator]

I generally do not reply to posts from non Iranians which have made Iran's affair their business pretending to know Iran and Iraninans. Afterall this is a non Iranian website . For those real Iranians that are so hot about their "failed state" Islamic Republic I have pity..you were educated under a school system that thought you to hate your culture and history and that teaching is so deep that you can not even see how far down your country has fallen.. you are children of a failed state soon to be gone in garbage bin of history...if you are in Iran you will see a blood bath..hope you are not in it..but IRAN will rise again and your children will grow up in a free prosperous country again under what ever system people choose..those days are very close.

You are nothing more than a donkey for the white man.

 

[Kyussis]

Iran could have spent the money on a lot of things other than fancy planes I think they could have used the estimated 50 billion to help fix their water issues it doesn’t have to be spent on shiny military equipment

How would that protect Iran? Do you remember the 9-11 false flag attacks and the "axis of evil" speech?

 

[ShapurII]

You seriously think hyper military power like US will be scared of some SU-35S? US can F up entire RuAF for starters if they want. Airbases are vulnerable as hell unless underground.

Also Soleimani was given to Trump from Inside and so was the internal assassination of conservative Raisi+Abollahian. One by one all of these hardcore anti-Israeli Islamists are being removed to be replaced by Reformists or moderates power figures like Larijani and they seem to be new IRGC backed. Nobody in Iran is interested in running militias against Israel anymore. IRI is going through an internal coup for good. Khamenei will go as well. If you want to look, go no further than checking where did the trade surplus of 2025 went? it did not reach bank Merkazi.

The US never intended to take on Iran in one go because it was too costly and deadly for their forces in the region. Just like they didn't take on Iraq in one go. I don't disagree with your coup d'état theory and I have been vocal about that for years. But a coup in a closed two-party system like Iran where means of power mostly belonged to the conservatives needed multiple steps. Had we been able to stop the chain of events, starting by the assassination of Gen. Soleimani in Iraq, things would've been very different today. Again, too late for what if's at this point.

I believe Turkey is playing a huge role in the coup taking place in Iran, on the behalf of the Western world. That's probably why the regime decided not to involve Turkey in the negotiations with the US, but that's a different matter.

Had Iran abandoned Syria to the Zionists and their Salafists foot soldiers back in 2011, war would have come to Iran much earlier at a time when the IRGCASF would lack effective missiles to force Israel to push for a cease fire. At that time no one was willing to sell Iran combat aircraft so I am not sure how you think Iran could have spent the money it spent in Syria to bring the IRIAF to a level that it could resist IAF/USAF?

Read again. 4 battalions of S-300 PMU2 cost us $700 million dollars in 2007. Export version of J10C costs $80 million dollar per unit. Now do a simple math and see how much 50 billion USD is. We could've spent that money on our own IADS, drones and ballistic missiles instead of some asshole that ruined his country and escaped to tovarisch Putin in the end. The same thing goes for useless militias like Hashd al-Shaabi or Hezbollah, both of which were dead silent and absent in the 12-day war and will be absent in the war with the US as well.

پای یه درخت تو کویر لوت ریده بودیم بیشتر ثمر داده بود

 

[ShapurII]

Hashd-al Shaabi (PMU) is allied with the Iraqi govt. Their decision relies on that of the Iraqi govt. Besides, US has been reportedly moving many ISIS fighters that they arrested to Iraq. If PMU joins the possible war between Iran and US-Israel, a civil war could be triggered in Iraq. So, it looks like they weighted all options and are following Iraqi govt's lead on this conflict.

Then they should receive money and equipment from the Iraqi government, not us.
Another disastrous mistake by the Ayatollahs. All those MRAPs sent to these useless groups could've been used to protect our soldiers in border patrols or other hostile areas.

 

[Aryobarzan]

From one dictatorship to another. His daughters have zero political experience or roots in Iran, much like himself. His entire family line only started with his father and they have no claim to the throne. Go find a living descendant of the Qajar family and they have more claim to the throne then this dude and his family.

Most likely this family would be assassinated in Iran without immense western protection detail. There is zero chance Pahlavi’s will be accepted by the factions of Iran. You can’t rule if the powerful families of Iran and the security apparatus doesn’t give their support. Regardless of what a bunch of exiles ex pats in Europe and California want.

I swear Westerns Iranians are some of the dumbest people when it comes to Iranian politics, even worse than the Americans and their shit storm they created with MAGA.

If you had read my last sentence I said people of Iran will decide who and what system they want...Reza Pahlavi is leader of opposition and soon to be head of transition council...elections and referendum will decide who and what system...you did a mental jump to him being the next king...

 

[ShapurII]

If you had read my last sentence I said people of Iran will decide who and what system they want...Reza Pahlavi is leader of opposition and soon to be head of transition council...elections and referendum will decide who and what system...you did a mental jump to him being the next king...

The thing is that Reza Pahlavi is also a shitty choice, but at this point, anybody is better than the current system. The current system has no functional strategy and is taking the country to literal obliteration and destruction by world powers.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

From one dictatorship to another. His daughters have zero political experience or roots in Iran, much like himself. His entire family line only started with his father and they have no claim to the throne. Go find a living descendant of the Qajar family and they have more claim to the throne then this dude and his family.

Most likely this family would be assassinated in Iran without immense western protection detail. There is zero chance Pahlavi’s will be accepted by the factions of Iran. You can’t rule if the powerful families of Iran and the security apparatus doesn’t give their support. Regardless of what a bunch of exiles ex pats in Europe and California want.

I swear Westerns Iranians are some of the dumbest people when it comes to Iranian politics, even worse than the Americans and their shit storm they created with MAGA.

The dumbest people on earth are the Iranian "Monarchists", better to name them pahlavists. Their demonstrations are mostly attended by maximum 2% of the exiled Iranians of the country where they organize them.

They want to follow a traitor zionist whose family has no connection or blood tie to any Iranian nobility/ancient kings. Grandfather was a security/officer crowned to king. Even the Qajars have more right to become monarchs.

We have families in Iran, Armenia, Georgia with 1000-1400 years history (shajare), connected to nobility of Iran. I dont know how this fool dares to claim/make a chance of becoming the king of Iran. I would not even place an "aftabeh" on his head, that would be to much honour for this traitor.

Many families martyred by zionist and Israeli-US bombardements are eagerly waiting to finish this family as soon as they enter Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

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As usual, the problem is that our obligations in any potential deal will be non-reversible, at least in short term, while their obligations will be immediately reversible (lifting sanctions or promised economic benefits).

I have said this again and again: The Islamic Republic, if it were a truly Iranian regime, would've never needed to negotiate such humiliating deals with the West had it relied on the popular support of Iranians. The Islamic Republic badly needs a new approach and negotiations with the Iranians, particularly people born after 1985, not the US or Europe.

 

[Shags101]

How would that protect Iran? Do you remember the 9-11 false flag attacks and the "axis of evil" speech?

Iran messed up in Syria sorry most people admit it they should have made Bashar step down right after they stabilized the situation could have come to a peaceful situation in Syria where honestly Iranians might have been looked as at hero’s and Bashar could have left gracefully but he didn’t and that where we are today.
9/11 was osama not big on conspiracy theories but either way let’s move on since both subjects aren’t relevant here bashar or bin Laden

 

[Aryobarzan]

The thing is that Reza Pahlavi is also a shitty choice, but at this point, anybody is better than the current system. The current system has no functional strategy and is taking the country to literal obliteration and destruction by world powers.

I do not disagree..we could have had better choice but we do not..he is best for the job at hand under these circumstances..if you ask me he has done well to focus attention of protests and foreign support for a regime change...we are now in " anything but Islamic republic" situation. If thre is any hope to have Iran back on her feet again we need to transition fast into referendum and election by then we may have more capable individuals running for the top job of the country and I do not care what system as long as it is not Islamic republic"

 

[Bharatah]

Information has reached Brasil that "Trump" (with Zionism behind it) made a proposal to Iran for a "PLANNED ATTACK" where Iran would gain some money and Trump would emerge as the "winner in the media". The Trump administration is carrying out a series of "media-driven military attacks" to feign the decline of the US.

NOTE: That confirms what happened in Venezuela was orchestrated; an agreement to hand over Maduro was accepted in exchange for money and the lifting of certain embargoes.

 

[tower9]

Information has reached Brasil that "Trump" (with Zionism behind it) made a proposal to Iran for a "PLANNED ATTACK" where Iran would gain some money and Trump would emerge as the "winner in the media". The Trump administration is carrying out a series of "media-driven military attacks" to feign the decline of the US.

NOTE: That confirms what happened in Venezuela was orchestrated; an agreement to hand over Maduro was accepted in exchange for money and the lifting of certain embargoes.

Everything Trump does is for show business. LITTLE SUBSTANCE, ALL FLUFF. That is why nothing is reversing the decline of the US. Actually everything he is doing is speeding up the process where it actually counts the most.

 

[ShapurII]

I do not disagree..we could have had better choice but we do not..he is best for the job at hand under these circumstances..if you ask me he has done well to focus attention of protests and foreign support for a regime change...we are now in " anything but Islamic republic" situation. If thre is any hope to have Iran back on her feet again we need to transition fast into referendum and election by then we may have more capable individuals running for the top job of the country and I do not care what system as long as it is not Islamic republic"

Yes, unfortunately he is the only choice left. Again, thanks to the Ayatollahs that have spent the last half a century suppressing every sort of legit opposition except for corrupt reformists in their two-party joke of a system.

I have always been against Reza Pahlavi as an alternative. His support for Israel has not made things easier for me either, but he is by far the most popular alternative inside and outside of Iran. People here talk like they are completely disconnected from reality and have never followed the protests. I understand why some foreigners may not have a clear idea of the situation inside Iran, but the Iranians here do know that most of the protestors chanted "Javid Shah" and slogans in favor of him and his family. Probably out of spite for the Islamic regime, but nevertheless, it happened. He does have a lot of popularity inside Iran. Anybody who denies this is either not aware of the situation inside Iran or is being dishonest.

 

[ShapurII]

Everything Trump does is for show business. LITTLE SUBSTANCE, ALL FLUFF. That is why nothing is reversing the decline of the US. Actually everything he is doing is speeding up the process where it actually counts the most.

I don't know. After all, it turned out that his threats against Maduro weren't all fluff.