Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

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Iran has produced a number of missiles similar to the Buk missile.
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Iran has produced a number of air defense missiles based on the SM-1, which are visually similar to the PAC-2.

Lol you backtracked and made a U-turn bigger than moon. You were previously claiming that Iran is copying Russian SAMS, obviously you did not care to even read a bit, you later failed to find one example out of Raad/Taer/Sevom Khordad MIDAD family (one out of 5 families) so now you are posting random pics as evidence to back track on your argument. Here is a list of Iranian AD assets, please find me Russian Copies except for already mentioned ones (you will fail miserably).

KINETIC LAYERS OF AIR DEFENCE:​

(1) Dedicated ABM Systems:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Arman (ABM version of Bavar-373)​	Sayyad 4/4B​	ARH/Datalink/onboard ECM​	8 Mach​	120-350 KM for Exo-Atmospheric interception​

(2) Anti-AWACS/Heavy Bomber:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Alam-Ol-Hoda (Sadid 630)​	ARH​	N/A​	6-7 Mach​	400+ (Likely)​

(3) HIMADS:

System/Missile Name​	Missile​	Guidance/ Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Bavar-373​	Sayyad 4/4B​	ARH/Datalink/onboard ECM​	6-7 Mach​	350​
S-300PMU2​	48N6E2/9M96E​	ARH/SARH​	5 Mach​	220​
Mehran​	4 x different SHOARAD/HIMADS​	ARH/Datalink/onboard ECM​	2.5-6-7 Mach​	25-320​
Sevom Khordad​	9-Dey/Taer-2B/Sayyad-2C​	ARH/Command/EO​	6-7 Mach​	240​
S-200​	5V21​	SARH​	4.5 Mach​	400​

(4) Mid-Ranged:

System Name​	Missile Name​	Guidance/ Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Khordad-15/Joshan​	Sayyad-3C​	IRST+ARH/Passive​	5-6 Mach​	150 ​
Mersad-16/Kamin-2​	Shahin/Shalamche/Sayad-3F​	SARH​	3-4 Mach​	40-150 ​
Tabas/Raad1/2​	Taer-1/2A/2S or Sayad-2​	IRST + ARH/SARH​	4-5 Mach​	105​
Talash 1/2/3​	Sayyad-2/3C​	IRST + ARH​	5 Mach​	75 ​

(5) SHORADS/Point Defenders:

System Name​	Missile Name​	Guidance/ Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Dezful (Local Tor M1)​	9M331​	Radar/EO/IIR​	2.8​	12​
Majid AD-08​	All Aspect Azarakhsh HOBS​	Radar+IIR/EO​	2.5​	15​
Zoubin (Copy of Iron Dome)​	8 x Zoubin​	Passive​	N/A​	20​
9th Dey​	Radar/EO​	Radar+IIR/EO​	4​	30​
Herz-9/Ya Zahra ( Crotale)​	Passive/Beam rider/EO​	Radar+ EO​	2-3​	15-20​
Rapier​	Command Line of Sight (CLOS)​	Radar+EO​	N/A​	8-10​

(6) Loitering/Anti-Drone/Helicopter SHORAD:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Missile-358 Loitering SAM​	INS/SAT/EO​	Datalink​	Subsonic​	50-100​
Qaem Anti-Helicopter Missile​	IIR ​	N/A​	N/A​	10-12 ​
Almas Anti-Helicopter Missile​	IIR ​	N/A​	N/A​	25​

(7) Naval HIMAD:

System Name​	Missile Name​	Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Mehrab NSAM system​	Naval Sayyad-2/2C/3​	ARH/Onboard ECM​	5+​	5 Mach (Likely)​

(8) Naval VLS SHORAD:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Nawab VLS​	AESA+IIR/EO​	Likely yes​	Supersonic​	15​

(9) CIWS/Self-Propelled AAs:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Range (KM)​
Mesbah-1 CIWS​	3D radar/EO/IR​	4-5​
Sair 100mm​	Radar/LOS/EO/IR ​	4-5​
Samovat 35mm​	Radar/LOS/EO/IR​	4-5​
ZSU-23-4 Shilka​	Radar Guided​	4-5​
Bahman ZSU-57-2​	Optical/Radar​	4-5​

(10) Naval CIWS:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Range (KM)​
Kamand Naval CIWS​	Radar + IIR/EO​	4-5 KM​

(11) Manpads:

Missile Name​	Guidance​	Datalink/ECM​	Speed (Mach)​	Range (KM)​
Misagh-3​	IIR​	N/A​	2.5​	5-8​

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However, its radar is still a PESA, just as I said, Iran is not capable of producing X-band AESA.

What the duck are you even talking about ? IRIAD, IRIN, IRGCN together have 5 types of local AESA radars.

Najam-802

Najm-804

Meraj-4

Cheshme Oghab Naval Aesa

Navab VLS system also uses AESA Tracking radars

Next time you post BS, read this list first so you dont waste anyones time.

CATEGORIES

NON-KINETIC ASSETS:​

(1) OTH Radars

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Sepehr​	3D​	Phase Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF​	3000​
Ghadir/Rezonans NE​	3D​	Phase Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF​	1100​
Nazir​	3D​	Phase Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF​	800​
Khailje Fars​	3D​	Phase Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF​	800​
Surface-Wave Podsolnukh-E​	3D​	Phase Array​	PESA​	HF​	360​

(2) Space Observatory

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Imam Sadegh Space Observatory​	3D​	Phase Array Domes​	PESA ​	Hybrid band coverage of NIR, Mid-IR, F-IR and HF/VHF​	1 Million ​

(3) Air-Defence Command and Control Centres

Name​

North, South, South West command centers

National Fiber Optic Telecommunication & Digital Super Computer Grid Network

Mobile Air Command centers “Borhan”

(4) Land Radars
(4.1) AESA Radars

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Meraj-4/Moragheb​	3D​	Phase Array​	AESA​	S-band​	450​
NEBO SVU​	3D​	Phase Array​	AESA​	VHF​	380​
Najm-804​	3D​	Phase Array​	AESA​	X band​	250​

(4.2) NON-AESA (PESA/HF)

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Fath 14​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF​	600​
Keyhan​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF band EWR​	500​
Falaq/67N6E Gamma-DE​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	N/A​	400​
Matla ul Fair​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	VHF​	480​
Ghamar​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	450​
Alborz​	3D​	Fuzzy Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	450​
Arash​	3D​	Phase Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	400​
Ghods/Vostok​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	S-band/VHF​	360​
64N6E​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	S-band​	300​
5N62V​	3D	Phased Array​	PESA​	H Band​	300​
Joshan​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	200​
JY-14 Radar​	2D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	E/F Band/VHF​	590​
Kavosh Kasta 2E2​	2D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	150​
MPQ-50/46​	2D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	N/A​
Kashef​	3D​	Phased Array​	PESA​	HF/VHF/UHF​	12​

(4.3) Passive Tracking Radars

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Alim​	3D​	Passive​	PESA​	N/A​	300​

(5) Naval Radars
(5.1) Naval AESA

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Cheshme Oghab​	3D​	4x Phase Arrays​	AESA​	X-band​	200​
Navab​	3D​	Multiple Phase Array​	AESA​	X-band​	100 KM​

(5.2) Naval PESA

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Asr​	3D​	PESA​	Phased Array​	X-band​	200​

(6) E-warfare, ElINT, Jamming Units

Name​	Dimensionality​	Antenna Type​	Antenna Tech​	Band/Frequency​	Range (KM)​
Murmansk-BN OTH Jamming unit​	2D​	Multiple OTH Transmitters​	ELINT​	HF​	5000​
Avtobaza​	2D​	N/A​	ELINT​	L to Ku band​	200​
Cobra V8 EW / Krasukha-4​	2D​	N/A​	Radar Jamming​	L to X-band​	300​

This is what you call Iranian air defense,

Yes we are very sorry we have a ~40 billion USD budget military (zero debt) supported by a large local military industrial complex. We should have asked loans and bonds from you and donated weaponry because thats what you like nations to do right ?

and it has nothing to do with China. On the contrary, Iran is using technology copied from the Soviet Union and the United States in the 1980s.

Let me rephrase your trolling/misinformation attempts here. I have provided you a list of IRIAD asset, you have so far failed to provide any considerable examples of an Iranian modern most radars, sensors active or passive, HIMADS, MIDADS, SHORADS that even remotely resemble USSR/Russian designs except the open ones like Taer/Raad. Khordad, Bavar, Mehran, Azaraksh, zoubin all use local Iranian tech that traces remote origin of US SM-1/2 (PAC) series or AIM-9 sidewinder with HOBS/All-Aspect capability. Even thats 3 generates back Sayyad-1/2 =>3 => 4 TVed.

Also Tom C's published claims of SAIRAN-CATIC cooperation is 100 times more credible than your troll posts here. Not sure why are you getting your panties in a bunch here because previous HESA-CAC have copperated as well. Whats your problem with that?

Also if you are trying to shame us Iranians on starting from somewhere, lol your whole airforce is built on Russian Flankers and Migs from 1960s and 70, Israeli Lavi (F-16 with delta wing) from 1970s that became J-10, J-35 that came from stolen blueprints of F-35. Worlds works like that, we are no exception. Stop trolling.

 

[muhammed45]

Currently China relies on oil not only from Iran but all Arab countries in the Middle East. What happens if after Iran falls to the USA and no obstacles left after that results in USA now telling all Arab countries and the New Iranian Regime to STOP SELLING OIL to China?

Will China finally go to war with the USA in that hypothetical future if the USA uses its Puppet Regimes in the Middle East to cease selling oil to China? Following the same path Japan took in WW2 because USA blockaded supplies/sales of critical resources to Japan?

The difference between China and Russia is exactly same as difference between an sleepy cute panda and a grizzly bear.

The grizzly might have a period of power nap, but it eventually returns and punishes the enemies. Panda usually ends up in a cage in the zoo.

China has been a colony of British empire for how many years? Can you say the same about Iran or Russia?

Our lovely cute panda senses the threat when it gets too late. Taiwan for example.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Iranians burn Baal idols:


Epstein and Western leaders worship Baal in satanic rituals

 

[ToddE]

he is allowed to make mistakes, it's good to have different perspectives as long as he stays respectful

Making a mistake is one thing. We all do but deliberate consistent trolling is destroying the thread. He is practically claiming a dual/tristaged solid fueled rocket is actually a magical copy of single staged liquid fueled rocket with 1.5 times the dia. You mods know better in the end though.

 

[Takayoshi]

Axios reports: Trump to send a second carrier strike group if talks fail.

 

[ety]

The difference between China and Russia is exactly same as difference between an sleepy cute panda and a grizzly bear.

The grizzly might have a period of power nap, but it eventually returns and punishes the enemies. Panda usually ends up in a cage in the zoo.

China has been a colony of British empire for how many years? Can you say the same about Iran or Russia?

Our lovely cute panda senses the threat when it gets too late. Taiwan for example.

Nonsense, whole China was never a colony of Britain. They just occupied Hong Kong and had some financial settlement in Shanghai unlike Iran that pretty much the whole country was occupied by the British for a period of time. Iran has to fight war with US/Israel on its own, China won't fight for other countries' sake. Taiwan matter will be solved by China according to its own timetable and dynamics. China even fought a real bloody war of 3 years against the superpower US and UN armies in the 1950s in Korea and then Vietnam in 1960s and 1970s, lol, not just making noises

 

[ToddE]

The US never intended to take on Iran in one go because it was too costly and deadly for their forces in the region. Just like they didn't take on Iraq in one go. I don't disagree with your coup d'état theory and I have been vocal about that for years. But a coup in a closed two-party system like Iran where means of power mostly belonged to the conservatives needed multiple steps. Had we been able to stop the chain of events, starting by the assassination of Gen. Soleimani in Iraq, things would've been very different today. Again, too late for what if's at this point.

Coup is real otherwise someone please explain where the 110-115 Billion USD worth export money went against almost half the government expenses+imports. Trade surplus that government earned last years did not reach Bank Merkazi. IRGC controls 1000 ship strong oil fleet and they have high numbers of offshore accounts, assets. One needs to be a special type of fool to believe that someone siphoned off the money and IRGC did not know. Rohani era inflation was also self induced so is current one because oil never stopped flowing out and government is not spending much so where exactly is the money going? These people are cleaning out the system of Islamist anti-Israel elements one by one. Soleimani, Bagheri, Zahedi, Salami, Raisi, Abdollahian, Fakhrizadeh, Davani etc are all gone or have retired, the real revolutionaries. We are at this stage now that Larijani is talking to Netanyahu through Putin while his FM is sitting with Americans, deputy FM is sitting with the Chinese, while we just caused a political take over in Iraq.

Also If you are against IRI then do not say "had we been able to ..." because thats not needed, nor it ever was. We are in this mess because IRI decided to go against US+EU+NATO+Israel ... The terrible policy of opposing global Jews who control your entire neighbourhood through massive debts. I love the warrior General Soleimani was but do I support his anti-Israel Islamist approach ? hell no.

I believe Turkey is playing a huge role in the coup taking place in Iran, on the behalf of the Western world. That's probably why the regime decided not to involve Turkey in the negotiations with the US, but that's a different matter.

Its not news. Turkey's half GDP is Western-Jew debt so they support Israel fully (6 Billion USD worth raw material, oil supply, appointing Jolani to cut Iraq from Hezbollah so Israel takes over lebanon). They are more stuck than us. Their people aint bad, the system is so deeply gripped that its not easy to leave it. Each to their own.

 

[ToddE]

Like I said ignore don’t respond trolls like to be responded sometimes it’s fun to have a good laugh but he’s on the weird side so it’s not fun to play with him on a few posts but to indirectly say to him he’s weird super weird.

Guy seems to have a deep problem.

 

[tsunset]

LMAO

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For those who don't understand, the man on the right is the French yoga teacher that stole Pahlavi's wife

 

[muhammed45]

Well, I hope China succeeds as one of the main pillars of Asian civilizations. Iranian nation fights its wars, no worries dude. China was one of the main suppliers of Saddam during the eight years war. Not because of animosity with Iran i suppose but mostly because China ideologically is a confused country.

It would be better if you collect your retarded countrymen from this thread and guide them back to their own section. Their presence in this place is more of annoyance than helping.

This thread is about a possible conflict and obviously offending comments will be a common phenomenon. And honestly, throwing insults at China is the last thing i wish for.

Nonsense, whole China was never a colony of Britain. They just occupied Hong Kong and had some financial settlement in Shanghai unlike Iran that pretty much the whole country was occupied by the British for a period of time. Iran has to fight war with US/Israel on its own, China won't fight for other countries' sake. Taiwan matter will be solved by China according to its own timetable and dynamics. China even fought a real bloody war of 3 years against the superpower US and UN armies in the 1950s, lol, not just making noises

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iranians burn Baal idols:
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Epstein and Western leaders worship Baal in satanic rituals

if this is true, that, satan worship is so prevalent then why Vatican does not speak openly about it?

why no acknowledgement, why so secret?

or it is meant to be a secret?

surely, this worship does not look a modern cultural act, this looks historical

 

[LX1111]

The difference between China and Russia is exactly same as difference between an sleepy cute panda and a grizzly bear.

The grizzly might have a period of power nap, but it eventually returns and punishes the enemies. Panda usually ends up in a cage in the zoo.

China has been a colony of British empire for how many years? Can you say the same about Iran or Russia?

Our lovely cute panda senses the threat when it gets too late. Taiwan for example.

What kind of world do you live in, where China was a British colony? Are you kidding me?
China is just silently watching the Iranians die. If Iran really wants China's help, it's simple: provide a good naval port for building an aircraft carrier base. This is the Indian Ocean naval base that China needs. Otherwise, complaining about China here is useless. After all, Iran is about to die.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Axios reports: Trump to send a second carrier strike group if talks fail.

Will this make it a total of 2, or 3 aircraft carriers? One near the Persian Gulf, one Mediterranean Sea and now "this new one?"

 

[LX1111]

Well, I hope China succeeds as one of the main pillars of Asian civilizations. Iranian nation fights its wars, no worries dude. China was one of the main suppliers of Saddam during the eight years war. Not because of animosity with Iran i suppose but mostly because China ideologically is a confused country.

It would be better if you collect your retarded countrymen from this thread and guide them back to their own section. Their presence in this place is more of annoyance than helping.

This thread is about a possible conflict and obviously offending comments will be a common phenomenon. And honestly, throwing insults at China is the last thing i wish for.

China supported Saddam Hussein during the eight-year war? What a joke! Iran and Iraq lined up to buy weapons from China. We treat everyone equally.

 

[mangekyo]

What kind of world do you live in, where China was a British colony? Are you kidding me?
China is just silently watching the Iranians die. If Iran really wants China's help, it's simple: provide a good naval port for building an aircraft carrier base. This is the Indian Ocean naval base that China needs. Otherwise, complaining about China here is useless. After all, Iran is about to die.

If China wants to build an aircraft carrier base in the ME it needs to ask permission from the U.S. I am 100 % sure the answer will be negative.