Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

Again, this is not about winning.....Iran is being killed by death of 1000 small cuts. The sanctions, the bombing, the assassinations....the currency manipulation...etc. I think Iran has had enough of the old man's patience and symbolic strikes....they want pay back. I think it will be easy to give the aggressors a pounding in return, as I said many times the Strait of Hormuz closure and the bombing of the UAE gas terminals could be devastating to the energy markets.....that alone is a win.
Asia, Europe, North America will see a few trillions of dollars evaporated in only 2 weeks of non-navigation of the strait.

I said the best time to go to war was in 2023 when Israel was conducting large amount of genocide in Palestine and Iran had all its assets at full strength.

Instead this board was filled with doomers and pessimists who thought that Iran in open conflict wouldn’t survive and the best way was this shadow war that was cutting Iran in 1000 different ways.

with HZ at full strength, Houthis at full strength, Iraqi PMUs at full strength, Assad still around, Iran had plenty of power to force Israel to abandon the Palestine war and win brownie points in the Arab and broader war against what was increasingly a very unpopular boycott of Israel.

Instead Iran sat on its hands as the enemy continued to encircle it. Now it’s at its weakest moment point in 10 years and with most of the AoR at a fraction of what they once were.

 

[Bharatah]

Now, a month has passed since the "Iran will be invaded in 24 hours" announcement, and as I said, it didn't happen: the only thing that could happen is a media attack (Venezuela style) to give the US/Israel a victory narrative.

The objective of Zionism is to wage hybrid warfare; countless lies are being spread, troop movements (which is classic for hybrid warfare but not for conventional warfare, because in conventional warfare you need 150-300 thousand soldiers on the border of the country you are going to invade; in the case of Iran, it's even more than that, and there's nothing there), and planes in countries that don't border Iran, to create pressure for hybrid warfare.

If any agreement is reached, Trump and the Zionist media will create a "victory narrative" saying that "Iran yielded because it was afraid and made a deal..." Their objective is always to create victory narratives.

 

[Homajon]

Oh man, we are again at the point where we were during the 12 day war.....where the Iranians on this forum are getting menstruation and act like pathetic feminine cry babies....."we are done, it's over, blablabla"

Stop reading every single new post on social media and man up!!! It's so emberassing....

 

[mulj]

I don't think many are still optimistic. the vast majority are now very pessimistic about the outcome of such a war.

Mountains, underground cities, endurance game and prolonging war as much is possible would be best strategy. Logistical lifeline from china and russia is vital and forming pockets of territories were air supremacy is denied to the enemy,

 

[StrategicBear]

If Iran wants to Preemptively Strike before the other carrier reaches within Combat Range, then the window is quickly closing...

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[mangekyo]

I think people underestimate how much intel US has where Iran stores its weapons and launchers. In case of cruise missiles and naval assets they are very close to the shore/coast and will be hit. Not everything is under a mountain and with US they will have hundreds of drones and many spy satellites monitoring Irans movements.

People thinking Iran are going to be able to launch 100 ASBMs salvos at US carriers are living in a very optimistic land.

The question is how much arms has Iran built up in these last 25 years and how many survive the initial shock and awe campaign.

At the end of the day, a $1Trillion military vs $30b military was never going to be a fair fight.

Unless they have spread out missiles in thousands of remote operated silos, I don’t see how they will be able to launch those salvos. They have uncontested access to Iranian airspace. As soon as a missile is launched, you can wave goodbye to that site and alle the operators.

 

[Tom_Cruise]

If they don't hit Bahrain and the UAE....I will be very disappointed. These 2 countries should be treated as Israeli outposts.

Jordan included. Hit the airbases but also the Royal palaces.

 

[prokhorudro]

LMAO! World view of people is sometimes so opposite of realities.

Qatar is just one city, it has one major air base and that too has US military over there. Why on earth they need to attack themselves?

Why on earth US would even bother to attack Egypt, Qatar or KSA. All of them are super allies and super obedient states of America. All of these have multiple US bases.

Pakistan too is unlikely target as Pak military keep close relations with US and Pakistan from time to time is given "ally" status. So it does not make sense to attack Pak. Also it would be a massive gamble as Pakistan is strategic ally of China. They could have attacked Pakistan if it was in stage of building nuclear weapons and not already in possession of 200 nukes


Now I tell you which country would really be next. That is Algeria! An islamic country that is not in west's grip. The country that buy weapons from Russia and China. The country which condemns West's dupicities and brutalities. US don't go against obedient nations with puppet regimes, they go against non-puppet regimes.

I think China has already proven their value as an 'ally'

 

[Ali_Baba]

lets see what bases the USAF actually uses. if they directly use bases in those countries for offensive operations against Iran, I agree with you.

Does a air refuelling tanker that operates from these countries, qualify, in your view as then making that country a legitimate target?

What about -
AWACS
Monitoring Drones
EW Jamming Aircraft.
Refuelling Tankers.

Is this for you restricted to things that just "drop bombs", or all the logistical aircraft that support the attacks in the background as well ?

 

[StrategicBear]

Now I fear if IRGC really has the time and space to fire BMs when the enemy has complete Air Supremacy over Iranian skies.

Even if supposing Iran managed to shoot down 1 or 2 F-35s thanks to counter-stealth radars from China, the amount now is TOO MASSIVE, like dozens of F-35s and even F-22 RAPTORS are taking part that it's impossible to shoot all of them down!! Closing Hormuz Strait is easier as it is hard for them to identify all anti-shipping launchers along the coasts as all are hidden well and camouflaged with an additional hundreds of decoys to waste enemy Precision Munitions on "fake targets", but if the skies of Iran is full of enemy birds, how can Iran fire BMs??

I hope Iran really has some sort of secret weapon in place, like mass amounts of EMP warheads, etc......

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[Pak-Warrior]

If you play by the rules set by your enemy then you are doomed. Its simple is that. Everything is fair in warfare, Iran needs to set rule of the game that favors itself. Iran needs to find ways to surprise enemy and think of most craziest and most immoral ways that enemy may try to surprise it. As enemy is very clever and cunning with modern tools and technology.

Don't wait and give the enemy a chance to attack on their time of choosing. That would be a blunder. If you don't want to "escalate" then keep disrupting their deployments without causing causalities but show your willingness that it will get ugly if enemy attacks. Create Chaos and disruptions. Extend the area of your "war exercises" and do these on daily basis.

If enemy deploy its forces at your doorstep then you have all the right in the world to fire warning shots, so enemy backs off or is unable to deploy in the manner they planned to do so.

Deployment in striking range is key for success in any military op. Availability of logistics is critical for sustained strikes. US is in process of doing so using "talks" as a time buying tactic. In the end, talks will fail. No one can meet US demands. Those demands are set in a way that talks will fail. Abandoning missile program is like giving up your only remaining deterrence, so US or Israel can do anything they want like Venezuela style without worrying about any consequences.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

lets see what bases the USAF actually uses. if they directly use bases in those countries for offensive operations against Iran, I agree with you.

goes both ways!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Energy infrastructure in Qatar, Kuwait should be hit when war starts, the sea and airports as well. Exports and imports of goods and energy and weapons should be made impossible.

Iran has no choice and time to be selective or to hesitate.

could IR have worked out, the areas, where even lesser strikes could create a havoc!

I suppose so, yes

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Now I fear if IRGC really has the time and space to fire BMs when the enemy has complete Air Supremacy over Iranian skies.

Even if supposing Iran managed to shoot down 1 or 2 F-35s thanks to counter-stealth radars from China, the amount now is TOO MASSIVE, like dozens of F-35s and even F-22 RAPTORS are taking part that it's impossible to shoot all of them down!! Closing Hormuz Strait is easier as it is hard for them to identify all anti-shipping launchers along the coasts as all are hidden well and camouflaged with an additional hundreds of decoys to waste enemy Precision Munitions on "fake targets", but if the skies of Iran is full of enemy birds, how can Iran fire BMs??

I hope Iran really has some sort of secret weapon in place, like mass amounts of EMP warheads, etc......

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that does not include drones and LM, which will accompany them in the first strike.

but, this is double edged sword, if USA misses, it could lead to massive damage on the US side as well

 

[Bahrami]

Do not fear so much. The enemy is strong. But ist ability to absorb pain is unimaginable low compared to its strength. It will not be worse than 8 years all out war against Saddam/USA/Soviets/Chemical Weapons/Arab States.

It will hurt, we will fall back here and there. But ANY attack on Iran will only strengthen the Core of Irans hold to power in the area and as always unite people. Let them come, fear nothing brothers.