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All our limitations are our very own and we need to find a way to address them.

Chinese and Turkish Industries have displayed amazing innovations and set many benchmarks. I wish we could implement Turkish model on Kaan or Chinese model on so many aspects.
But we haven’t been able to and wouldn’t be able to.
But you shouldn’t need to either. There has to be a new Indian model that specifically addresses the R&D challenges when it comes to both cultural hurdles and resource availability.
 
We'd like to see
https://www.tei.com.tr/en/activity-areas/engine-design-and-product-development (Tusaş Engine Industries - TEI)
Since you're too lazy to click the link if you're too lazy to find it with a simple search, I'll leave a picture here.


Note: Design, development and manufacturing activities for the TP400-D6 engine are carried out by the Europrop International (EPI) consortium established jointly by MTU Aero Engines, Snecma, Rolls-Royce and Rolls-Royce ITP Aero. TEI participates in this project as the risk and revenue partner with Rolls-Royce ITP Aero. The first flight of the engine was performed with A400M aircraft in Seville, Spain in late 2009, and it was released to service in late 2013.

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But you shouldn’t need to either. There has to be a new Indian model that specifically addresses the R&D challenges when it comes to both cultural hurdles and resource availability.
We need Scientists like Kalam or Vikram Sarabhai to spear head such projects. Leaders with vision and charisma. Changing the entire model and the ecosystem seems almost impossible. The reason is our society and deeply entrenched work culture issues.
 
https://www.tei.com.tr/en/activity-areas/engine-design-and-product-development (Tusaş Engine Industries - TEI)
Since you're too lazy to click the link if you're too lazy to find it with a simple search, I'll leave a picture here.


Note: Design, development and manufacturing activities for the TP400-D6 engine are carried out by the Europrop International (EPI) consortium established jointly by MTU Aero Engines, Snecma, Rolls-Royce and Rolls-Royce ITP Aero. TEI participates in this project as the risk and revenue partner with Rolls-Royce ITP Aero. The first flight of the engine was performed with A400M aircraft in Seville, Spain in late 2009, and it was released to service in late 2013.

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Since you didn't read my post later, I asked about single crystal turbine blades for afterburning turbofans, the one you showed is for helicopter turboshafts.

Never denied Turkey has SCTBs for turboshafts, just that I haven't seen any for afterburning turbofans. Do share if you have any info :)
 
There is no point comparing China with India, we have our concern, and much bigger concern, so we have to work much harder, Indian has theirs, their main focus is still in South Asia and Pakistan.
 
There is no point comparing China with India, we have our concern, and much bigger concern, so we have to work much harder, Indian has theirs, their main focus is still in South Asia and Pakistan.
True. Your competitors are America and the Western order.

India for the next couple of decades will be a inward looking nation with it's sphere of influence limited to South Asia and the Indian Ocean.

Some of the outliers are India being involved in the Caucasus by heavily arming Armenia and being more militarily involved with some European powers like Greece, France and Israel in ME.
 
China budget for research and development is five times
I hear china has spent 40 billion dollars for their own engines to get it right ...
Let that sink in
That's on engines alone over the last two decades

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True. Your competitors are America and the Western order.

India for the next couple of decades will be a inward looking nation with it's sphere of influence limited to South Asia and the Indian Ocean.

Some of the outliers are India being involved in the Caucasus by heavily arming Armenia and being more militarily involved with some European powers like Greece, France and Israel in ME.

Right now India seems to have very little influence beyond it;s own backyard.

BD, and Pakistan are at loggerheads with you, Iranian port dream is over. Pakistan taking a proactive military role in Mid East. 7th May did your military reputation no favours.
 
Right now India seems to have very little influence beyond it;s own backyard.

BD, and Pakistan are at loggerheads with you, Iranian port dream is over. Pakistan taking a proactive military role in Mid East. 7th May did your military reputation no favours.

Mate you are such doom merchant
I pee myself laughing at your comments
The whole world is flocking to India to sign trade deals from .Europe to Brazil to Israel to UAE

About to sign
80 billion deal with Boeing for airliners
40 billion on Rafales
8 billion. On Israeli hyper sonics and drones

Right now 26 countries in mumbai at Artificial intelligence seminar heads of Google apple navidia etc

Which alternate world do you live in
 
When we look outside of the Indian echo chamber you can see that this deal will not be signed during Macron''s visit and it seems local production is still a stumbling block. We have been down this road many times before, Indian pretending it is buying stuff to keep sellers on side.....

Macron hails ‘acceleration’ of France-India ties amid ‘changing international order’​


French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday hailed a "remarkable acceleration" of ties with India, after a meeting on Tuesday with Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Mumbai.

Macron said the shift came in response to the "changing international order", adding that both countries did not want to "be subjected to any form of hegemony" or the "conflict of a few".

The French president arrived in India's commercial capital at the start of a three-day visit focused on artificial intelligence cooperation and a potential multibillion-dollar Dassault Rafale fighter jet deal.

France is seeking to expand its military partnership with New Delhi, with discussions expected on a potential contract for 114 additional French fighter jets.




Macron and his wife Brigitte arrived around midnight on Monday in Mumbai, India’s financial capital, for his fourth visit to India since taking office in 2017.

After his visit to Mumabi, Macron travels to New Delhi for an artificial intelligence summit on Wednesday and Thursday.

The visit follows New Delhi’s confirmation last week that it intends to place a major order for Rafale jets, as well as the signing of a landmark free trade agreement between India and the European Union in January.

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‘Contract of the century’​

New Delhi has sought over the past decade to reduce its dependence on Russia, its traditional main supplier of military equipment, turning to other countries while also pushing for more domestic production.

An Indian defence ministry statement last week said the proposed purchase of Rafale jets had been cleared – with “the majority” of them to be manufactured in India.

The statement did not specify the exact number of jets New Delhi would purchase, but a New Delhi defence ministry source said that 114 was likely.

Christophe Jaffrelot, an India specialist at Sciences Po Center for International Studies in Paris, described the potential EUR30 billion ($35 billion) deal for 114 Rafales as the “contract of the century” and a potential “crowning achievement” for bilateral ties.

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If finalised, the jets would add to the 36 Rafales India purchased for its air force in 2016 and 26 it has ordered for its navy.

Negotiations over the additional aircraft still need to be concluded with manufacturer Dassault Aviation, but the French presidency has voiced optimism that what it calls a “historic” agreement could be reached.

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‘Good chemistry’​

France has emerged as one of India’s most important defence and economic partners in the last decade.

“Through this visit, we seek to further strengthen cooperation” with India, and to “diversify” France’s economic and trade partnerships, Macron’s office said.

India, the world’s most populous country with 1.4 billion people, is on track to become the fourth-largest economy globally.

This week’s talks are also expected to address global economic uncertainty triggered by tariff policies under US President Donald Trump, as well as China’s influence in the region.

Modi’s office said discussions would focus on “cementing the strategic partnership and further diversifying it into new and emerging areas”.

Bilateral trade between France and India, driven largely by defence and aerospace – India’s commercial fleet includes a substantial number of Airbus aircraft – stands at around EUR15 billion ($18 billion) annually.

French foreign direct investment in India totals nearly €13 billion ($15 billion).

The two leaders will also be keen to nurture close personal ties.

“There is apparently a good chemistry, a good personal rapport,” Jaffrelot said.

One sensitive issue remains Ukraine: India has not condemned Russia’s 2022 invasion and has continued buying oil from Moscow.

US President Donald Trump has said India had committed to halting the purchases, though that has not been formally confirmed by New Delhi.

“If the Indians stop buying Russian oil, they won’t be blamed for abstaining at the UN,” Jaffrelot added.


 
China budget for research and development is five times
I hear china has spent 40 billion dollars for their own engines to get it right ...
Let that sink in
That's on engines alone over the last two decades

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Don't know where this numbers comes from, but it seems more like Indian's pr for your own agenda.
 
Don't know where this numbers comes from, but it seems more like Indian's pr for your own agenda.

I did caveat it by saying not sure how true

But I do believe chinease military budget quoted at 300 billion is higher
 

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