Muji.Iqbal
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Rafale is a good bird. But the pilots of India are quite bad. lol.
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What is the last jet engine studied and serially produced alone by UK? Italy ? Japan?
Also, is Rafale equally potent without NATO's ecosystem?quick question
do you blame the rafales getting shot down on indian pilots etc or on the plane itself?
This was not a situation where individual pilot skills played a decisive role. As reported by Chinese sources, even the J-10 pilot was not fully aware of the target; the engagement was coordinated using network-centric data and guidance from AWACS. Therefore, this incident was primarily related to planning and execution rather than pilot skill.Rafale is a good bird. But the pilots of India are quite bad. lol.
The former Red Air Force got its start thanks in part to a reverse engineered Rolls Royce engine because its own indigenous design at the time was junk.The Rolls-Royce XG-40 which is what the EJ-200 based on. UK has Rolls Royce, second largest engine manufacturer in the world.
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The UK knows what it is doing with regards to jet engine, only a fool would think otherwise.. The same can't be said for India, Rakesh.
Ask Egypt, India, Qatar, Indonesia. Then UAE.Also, is Rafale equally potent without NATO's ecosystem?
its not
This was not a situation where individual pilot skills played a decisive role. As reported by Chinese sources, even the J-10 pilot was not fully aware of the target; the engagement was coordinated using network-centric data and guidance from AWACS. Therefore, this incident was primarily related to planning and execution rather than pilot skill.
XG40 was never serially produce.The Rolls-Royce XG-40 which is what the EJ-200 based on. UK has Rolls Royce, second largest engine manufacturer in the world.
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The UK knows what it is doing with regards to jet engine, only a fool would think otherwise.. The same can't be said for India, Rakesh.
Asked them. Got my answer. Rafale has been employed well only by French.Ask Egypt, India, Qatar, Indonesia. Then UAE.
Rafale is ITAR free, so US leash free.
XG40 was never serially produce.
EJ200 is made and was studied by 4 country. Not a sigle one can use it without the other autorisation due to intelectual property. This is why when France & Germany imagined to built a SCAF flying prototyp, it was agreed to use a M88 derivative because free of this problem.
Seems that it was an Egyptian Rafale attack that struck a turkish base in Lybia (protected by SAM) some years ago.Asked them. Got my answer. Rafale has been employed well only by French.
NO.Snecma M88 was rejected for the Typhoon in favour of a XG-40 derivative called the EJ200. FCAS has "no other" alternative to to M88 for FCAS as the initial engine.
NO.
M88 was never promoted to fit EF2000, as EJ200 was never imagined for Rafale.
No promotion means no rejection.
The ECF project collapsed in 1981 for several reasons, including differing requirements, Dassault's insistence on "design leadership," and the British preference for a new version of the RB199 to power the aircraft versus the French preference for the new Snecma M88.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon#cite_note-butler3-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a>
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