RocketLaw
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PAF carried out precision strikes in Khogyani, targeting the Khazey base in Nangarhar Province.
The site is considered one of the most critical infrastructures of the Afghan Taliban in the region.
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a cop out- what support is China to provide to Pakistan in the case of this conflict with Afg?China doesn’t need to give statements, it proves with its actions. I doubt the Pakistani elite is concerned not getting a strong statement from China.
Really? Whats the build up against taiwan for? Peace and love? The flotilla of hugs?China is not a warmongering nation, it prefers economic development over war. Pakistan would have preferred development over war against Afghanistan as well, but has been forced into defensive military actions as a response to Taliban’s terrorism.
The fact that China views the Taliban and Pakistan as partners in the same relationship says enough.China views Pakistan as the senior partner in the relationship, Afghanistan as the junior partner in the relationship. Of course it sides with Pakistan, but it would like a reformed Taliban in Afghanistan, which doesn’t allow its territory to be used against other countries; and that is what Pakistan wants as well from the Taliban.
Annexing Afghan territory would trigger immediate international alarm, that path is neither viable nor defensible.
If there’s real resolve, the alternative isn’t annexation but fragmentation.. weaken Kabul’s grip by backing local power shifts, starting with the periphery ..
High risk... High consequences... But strategically cleaner than waving a flag across the border.
I disagree -> if pakistan annexes parts of AFG -> this is the moment, Trump / US is friendly and who will back AFG, india? they cant fire a practice Missile on a target drone -> Plus let them come... we need an excuse to bomb Major indian cities and infra in BUM vs Sindoor 2.0 anyways
Wakkan corridor gives us direct Central Asia access + a 50KM buffer zone of Death enforced by Drones gives us leverage.
The afghans are old / might is power people -> holding their land as part of 'Durand line +' setup is the humiliation the Taliban need for proper infighting to begin -> then the enemy will see obeying Pakistan over india is the 'correct' choice.
Agreed, international law seems quite subdued at the moment
Trump respects strength
And most of all Pakistan can make a security argument for the buffer zone and taking the Wakhan
It's now or never
I'm not saying it's the best decision, but timing of it is as good as it's ever going to be
But annexing afghani land means you need a lot of man power to be positioned over there. We have a massive primary front of India. How we can bring our military to do such a big gig? We can't take an eye off from that front.
Secondly, annexation means the whole afghans (even anti-talibs) will join against us. So its better to fund and support anti-talib groups. That is safer approach then annexation.
You can think about annexing afghanistan, if we have total peace with india and great relations. whichs not going to happen in foreseeable future.
Redrawing international borders isn't a matter of willpower... it's a seismic act with cascading consequences... It sets a precedent far more dangerous than the grievance it claims to resolve.
If Pakistan asserts the right to strike or annex territory over cross-border militancy and terrorism, it hands others, India included, the same rationale to act against Pakistan on identical grounds...
Once you legitimize border changes through accusation and force, you normalize a principle that will inevitably circle back...
Your so damn single brain celled that in times of actual calamity you have to write a paragraph explaining what the state did or didn't do in times when neither the current leadership of both parties involved were in power...Its already explained in this post:
Plus I will expand it further.. to completely bury the illogical, non-factual and low IQ blames on PTI
1980s: Roots of terrorism started in Pakistan by Pakistan army COAS Gen Zia, he created 1000s of madrassas (jihadi factories) with CIA funds. No PTI was present then
2002 onwards: Tribals got upset by Pak joining US war on terror. terrorists attacks start happening. Who was responsible then? PTI was nowhere in power circles then. IK only used to win his local seat of mianwali
2005-2018: Peak terrorism in country, 1000s of US drones strikes within our own territory, Creating more anger in locals and terrorism keep increasing.
2018-2021: Lowest ever terrorism, nearly conquered it. ZERO drones strikes as it was state policy then to not allow drones.
2022-26: Again worst terrorism.
If you still claim its PTI, PTI, PTI after seeing facts for yourself then what I can say. Replace PTI today, bring a puppet govt in province and see if things will improve or go worse from their.
If you are fighting terrorism, last thing you want to do is to go against will of people. PTI did massive rallies in Swat few years back to protest why state is allowing armed men back into their valleys. There are press conferences on record. PTI do not control an inch of a border. PTI has zero control who comes and goes from borders. Facts are all in front of us, who started this cancer and who were in power when it actually start hitting.
These haramis will talk of anything except the regular attacks on Pakistan by TTP and BLA.
Note such “empthaziers” - they are bunch of snakes.
Don't get me wrong I really don't have anything against China. Its just that you would expect them to stand with us in these sort of situation given our long standing relationship.Chinese hardware and expertise helped Pakistan crack India's skull last year. They are brothers and an ally.
Stop this toxic comparisons. International relations are not zero sum.
Best way currently would be to help sign a deal with the NRF, and help them take the north. Have de-facto control over Wakhan via NRF support.Annexing Afghan territory would trigger immediate international alarm, that path is neither viable nor defensible.
If there’s real resolve, the alternative isn’t annexation but fragmentation.. weaken Kabul’s grip by backing local power shifts, starting with the periphery ..
High risk... High consequences... But strategically cleaner than waving a flag across the border.
Dont worry about these Turks from Temu, they are a tiny minority.....These Turks should focus on their own region. Afghanistan and Pakistan are beyond Turkish reach.
Your so damn single brain celled that in times of actual calamity you have to write a paragraph explaining what the state did or didn't do in times when neither the current leadership of both parties involved were in power...
And the audacity of being such an intellectual bigot to claim that it was IK's policies that resulted in the peace and not NS and Raheel Sharif who led operation Zarb e Azab after the APS attack.. wasn't it IK who wanted to make bed with the ttp ?
Time and time again you prove that it's not about lives, it's not about prosperity and it's certainly not about the people.
It's about sounding right not even being right.
What do you call that ? Optics ...
And the illusion is about come off..
What is so hard about understanding that they are killing Pakistani citizens in the thousands? It matters little how and who brought them to power. They are inimical to the interests of Pakistan because for them all of Pakistan is murtad and our blood is Halal for them to spill.Everyone is patriot, but fail to understand the logic behind all out war and all of sudden. We brought them in power and now we are trying to kill them. When we use to say, get rid of these snakes we are feeding in our backyard ....no body listen to us. Now these snakes have whole country named Afghanistan , we are on killing spree .....don t you think its little late ? ... Stories of Sufi Mohamad, Baitullah Mesud, Swat operation, suicide attack on Musharraf ...these were the same snakes but I doubt we will be able to annihilate them. They are now getting our Muslim brothers, Chinese and Russian endorsement......We are confused.
May Allah protect Jinnah ka Pakistan.
Yup bro it's not about the lives of our countrymen they care about... It's their narrative...View attachment 181259
dont waste your time , he only has good opinions when talkng in iran threads he looses his IQ when he comments in pakistani threads
It's ok. In the world of diplomacy, some neutrality helps in such situations. Had they come out entirely in Pakistan's favor, Afghans would not allow them to play the role of mediators. Eventually all of this stuff has to go the way of talks.Yeah, i didnt like China’s neutral statement. Disappointing.
You really don’t understand China, so I think you should read up more.a cop out- what support is China to provide to Pakistan in the case of this conflict with Afg?
Really? Whats the build up against taiwan for? Peace and love? The flotilla of hugs?
The fact that China views the Taliban and Pakistan as partners in the same relationship says enough.
Alas, you can do your China bootlicking in the appropriate thread. Let us enjoy our fireworks here.
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