Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

weird seeing how they also faced ethno terrorism for many years .

Many Turks don't understand the A, B and C of this conflict. They do understand that they must influence Afghanistan which is the backyard of Central Asian countries. It is no secret that Turks have a special affection for Central Asian states which they consider as their blood lineage.

Also public sentiment in Turkiye can sometimes fluctuate based on different historical narratives and modern political contexts.

There are historical ties between Turkiye and Afghanistan (The Ataturk Connection). One of the most significant reasons for the strong, enduring, and affectionate view of Afghanistan in Turkey is the historical relationship between the two nations' founding movements.

King Amanullah Khan and Mustafa Kemal Atatürk: In the 1920s, King Amanullah Khan of Afghanistan was a major reformer who sought to modernize his country, much like Atatürk in Turkey. They maintained a very close, brotherly relationship. Amanullah Khan was one of the first heads of state to visit the new Republic of Turkey and express support for Atatürk’s secular and modernization reforms.

Following this, Turkey sent numerous teachers, military officers, and advisors to Afghanistan to help build their institutions and modern army. This created a legacy of "fraternal" support that is still taught in Turkish history books. To many Turks, Afghanistan is viewed through a lens of shared history during the early 20th-century nation-building period.

There is also strong Pan-Turkic sentiment among some groups in Turkey. Because some Afghan ethnic groups (like the Uzbeks and Turkmens) share linguistic and cultural roots with Turks, there is often a specific cultural kinship felt toward those communities in Afghanistan, which sometimes colors the perception of the nation as a whole.

Turkey’s relationship with Pakistan is often framed through geopolitics and strategic partnership, rather than just cultural history.

Turkey often views itself as a model for Islamic nation-building—secular, republican, and modern. Historically, some Turks felt a closer alignment with the reformist history of Afghanistan. Conversely, the relationship with Pakistan is often viewed as a "state-to-state" friendship based on mutual strategic interests, which can feel more formal or "distant" compared to the romanticized, historical connection with Afghanistan.

Let's be under no illusion. There are indeed Turks that would walk over Pakistan and support Afghanistan every day of the week. These Turks feel culturally closer to Afghanistan and they have their historical ties to back their claims.
 
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You really don’t understand China, so I think you should read up more.

Pakistan has a deep economic, security and technological relationship with China. The militaries of both countries are highly connected. Most of our military hardware is from China.

China assisted Pakistan in Operation Sindoor against India. China knows the Taliban pose no major threat to Pakistan, so it knows Pakistan can take care of the Taliban on their own.
ugh, this "assist" irks me so much.

Pakistan is a customer of China.

China did not help us out of the kindness of their heart.

Pakistan paid for goods and services, and China provided.

Anyway, not relevant
 
a cop out- what support is China to provide to Pakistan in the case of this conflict with Afg?

It's comments like these that let you down.

China was everywhere when you needed it. Their hardware and real time battle space awareness given to you for free helped against India.

Sometimes it is also good to show you can deal with things yourselves. You can't handle Afghanistan with no air force, no navy etc by yourselves?

Just get on with it.
 
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ugh, this "assist" irks me so much.

Pakistan is a customer of China.

China did not help us out of the kindness of their heart.

Pakistan paid for goods and services, and China provided.

Anyway, not relevant
Pakistan is not a customer of China, that’s what Western propaganda wants you to believe. There is too much evidence for that, but this is not the thread. I suggest you read up on the depth of relationship Pakistan has with China, especially on the military levels. Even the US does not come out defending Israel every time publicly. You are quite naive and don’t understand international diplomacy unfortunately.
 
Zip it up. It makes ABSOLUTE ZERO sense to blame someone for something when they didn't event existed.

Just remember, Gen Zia started it, I don't see any PTI hand in it. and During Musharraf's time it bite back and it bit really hard. Early 2000s there used to be bomb attacks in GHQ, Marriot Islamabad, foreign cricket team and what not. PTI didnt even existed then in power circles. Maybe you still want to blame PTI for all that terrorism ??

I mean, the most stupidiest thing is to blame PTI for your own fking incompetence and blunders.

For once in your life, try to put blame where it's due. Don't find scapegoats entire your lives.
You have COMPLETELY lost the plot...
Drink some water, take some sleep and reflect on what you are arguing about.
Cheers
 
China was everywhere when you needed it. Their hardware and real time battle space awareness given to you for free helped against India.

PAF has their own assets for battlespace awareness. This is indian propaganda that China helped Pak this and that. Pak used Chinese made equipment which it paid for. Its like saying France, Russia and Israel Helped India.

Yes China is a GREAT friend and strategic partner. But when two forces were fighting, they were fighting on their own.
 
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PAF has their own assets for battlespace awareness. This is indian propaganda that China helped Pak this and that. Pak used Chinese made equipment which it paid for. Its like saying France, Russia and Israel Helped India.

Yes China is a GREAT friend and strategic partner. But when two forces were fighting, they were fighting on their own.

Those "assets" wouldn't work without the Chinese...
 

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