Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

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France/UK/Germany they dont have 5th gen fighter doesnt mean they dont have the technology, besides we dont know the stealth performance of KAAN yet.

We dont know the stealth performance of J-20 too

I dont care about France or Germany
They have no even MALE UCAV .... They have no unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
and FCAS project for 2050

They will use RAFALE and Eurofighter until 2050

The 35K lbf turbofan is still underpower compared to F135 and WS-15 (40K lbf) and the TWR is still below that of EJ200.

F-35 use single Engine 40.000 lbf
KAAN will have 2 x 35.000 lbf Engines = 70.000 lbf

 

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We dont know the stealth performance of J-20 too

I dont care about France or Germany
They have no even MALE UCAV .... They have no unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
and FCAS project for 2050

They will use RAFALE and Eurofighter until 2050

And your F16s will also use after 2040, what wrong with it, USA will use F15s and F16s after 2040 what's wrong with it

F-35 use single Engine 40.000 lbf
KAAN will have 2 x 35.000 lbf Engines = 70.000 lbf

You're comparing apples to oranges, F35 is medium weight jet, whereas your KAAN/Su-57/J-20/F-22 are heavy weight jets, compare your KAAN with J-20/F-22 not with F35

 

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Those are unmanned stealth fighter, they can launch A2A missile, even Feihong can bring 8 AAM and it's speed is supersonic while Kizilelma is still just subsonic.

Its even can not fly .... paper project of China

 

[Antonius123]

We dont know the stealth performance of J-20 too

We dont know the true stealth performance of all stealth fighter jet, but we know that both US and China has spent much more money and talent to develop 5th gen fighter than Turkiye has spent.

I dont care about France or Germany
They have no even MALE UCAV .... They have no unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
and FCAS project for 2050

They will use RAFALE and Eurofighter until 2050




F-35 use single Engine 40.000 lbf
KAAN will have 2 x 35.000 lbf Engines = 70.000 lbf

Where do you read KAAN will use 2 x 35k lbf engine?

 

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And your F16s will also use after 2040, what wrong with it, USA will use F15s and F16s after 2040 what's wrong with it

Problem is for France no any 5th gen Fighter Jet
only RAFALE until 2050

Turkiye has its own KAAN and KIZILELMA projects for 2028-2030

 

[Pioneer]

Same false flager troll team
Israel is also small but Israel gave Fighter Jet technology to China over LAVI

J10C = Israeli LAVI



not UAV
Its unmanned stealth Fighter Jet and technology of future

Unfortunately. I don’t know, Lavi’s Which technologies belong to Israel.

Just like we don’t know which technologies of KAAN belong to Türkiye.

lavi=Turkish aircraft. For performances and exhibitions only.

BTW. China manufactured passenger aircraft in the 1970s. Y-10.

 

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Problem is for France no any 5th gen Fighter Jet
only RAFALE until 2050

Turkiye has its own KAAN and KIZILELMA projects for 2028-2030

For testing only testing purposes only

 

[Antonius123]

Its even can not fly .... paper project of China
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You always think with logical fallacies.

If you mean mock up can't fly, of course mock up doesnt fly.

And who said FH-97 doesnt exist except mock up? You dont know doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

China has much more money and talent than Turkiye, so the paper project more suitable for turkiye than china.

In fact FH-97 has been produced in year 2022, 2 year earlier than Kizilelma.

It's speed is supersonic and carry 8 AAM, which is superior than Kizilelma.

 

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We dont know the true stealth performance of all stealth fighter jet, but we know that both US and China has spent much more money and talent to develop 5th gen fighter than Turkiye.

KAAN platform and RAM paint are excellent for stealth capability
We are waiting for next gen national turbofan Engine for true 5th gen capability as like F-35

You're comparing apples to oranges, F35 is medium weight jet, whereas your KAAN/Su-57/J-20/F-22 are heavy weight jets, compare your KAAN with J-20/F-22 not with F35

F-22 has also 2 x 35.000 lbf Engines

but F-22 lacks IRST , EOTS , HMDS , DIRCM , 360° situational awareness

KAAN Fighter Jet
1-- new turbofan Engine from TR-MOTOR for 5th gen capability
2-- with AI-enhanced battlefield awareness ( 360° situational awareness with 4 AESA radars - sensor fusion with EOTS , IRST with unique configuration )
3-- high-capacity networking , AI, data fusion
4-- Artificial Intelligence Co-pilot
5-- Pilot Health Tracking
6-- DIRCM Directed Infrared Countermeasure System by high power LASER
7-- HMDS (Helmet Display System) with AI-enhanced battlefield awareness
8 --Increased-range BVR Missile (GOKHAN ramjet powered long range networked a2a missile )
9-- excellent EW capabilities with ASELSAN FEWS -- Fighter Electronic Warfare Suite

10 -- full data-to-decision (D2D) capability for multi-layered distributed team of diverse manned aircraft working in concert with unmanned types ( KAAN , ANKA-3, KIZILELMA )

 

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For testing only testing purposes only

not testing
but first delivery of 20 Jets for initial operational capability including BVR combat as of 2028-2030

 

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Where do you read KAAN will use 2 x 35k lbf engine?

I am a TURK ... Its our project

KAAN is twin engine Fighter Jet
and TEI - TR MOTOR develops 35.000 lbf turbofan Engine

 

[Antonius123]

KAAN platform and RAM paint are excellent for stealth capability
We are waiting for next gen national turbofan Engine for true 5th gen capability as like F-35

We dont know whether it is more/less excellent than those used by China for J-20 or US for F-35.

F-22 has also 2 x 35.000 lbf Engines

but F-22 lacks IRST , EOTS , HMDS , DIRCM , 360° situational awareness

KAAN Fighter Jet
1-- new turbofan Engine from TR-MOTOR for 5th gen capability
2-- with AI-enhanced battlefield awareness ( 360° situational awareness with 4 AESA radars - sensor fusion with EOTS , IRST with unique configuration )
3-- high-capacity networking , AI, data fusion
4-- Artificial Intelligence Co-pilot
5-- Pilot Health Tracking
6-- DIRCM Directed Infrared Countermeasure System by high power LASER
7-- HMDS (Helmet Display System) with AI-enhanced battlefield awareness
8 --Increased-range BVR Missile (GOKHAN ramjet powered long range networked a2a missile )
9-- excellent EW capabilities with ASELSAN FEWS -- Fighter Electronic Warfare Suite

10 -- full data-to-decision (D2D) capability for multi-layered distributed team of diverse manned aircraft working in concert with unmanned types ( KAAN , ANKA-3, KIZILELMA )

We need reference to prove that your claim is true that KAAN will use 2x 35k lbf. If you dont have then it means you are just make up story.

KAAN is not heavy fighter like F-22, KAAN is intended to replace light fighter F-16. KAAN should be light or medium fighter at best.

 

[Antonius123]

I am a TURK ... Its our project

KAAN is twin engine Fighter Jet
and TEI - TR MOTOR develops 35.000 lbf turbofan Engine

Doesnt matter you are a Turk or not, we need credible source.

You dont have enough credibility to throw such a claim.

If you dont have the reference it means you are just bluffing.

 

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China has much more money and talent than Turkiye, so the paper project more suitable for turkiye than china.

Its nothing to do with more money
Its to do with technology

France Germany Italy still could not develop even EUROMALE UAV
Turkiye ahead of China and Europe in unmanned technology

and Turks have more talent than Chinese
give us 230 billion defense budget and see what will happen

just 20-40 billion defense budget but we Turks fighting with USA China in technology

 

[Antonius123]

full of BS

Its nothing to do with more money
Its to do with technology

France Germany Italy still could not develop even EUROMALE UAV
Turkiye ahead of China and Europe in unmanned technology

and Turks have more talent than Chinese
give us 230 billion defense budget and see what will happen

just 20 billion defense budget but we Turks fighting with USA China in technology

BS for you because you dont understand.

Technology development needs R&D.

R&D need money and talent pool (and experience too)

Abundance of Money and talent pool (and experience too) belong to China and US, not Turkiye.