Breaking: First F-47 Sixth-Gen Fighter Already Being Built, Expected to Fly in 2028

[royalharris]

Can the rare earth materials problem be solved?

Always raining on someone's parade when they're hyped up.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Always raining on someone's parade when they're hyped up.

Hahaha, my bad, I’ll be careful next time.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Can the rare earth materials problem be solved?

Depends on which ones you're referring to and whether or not President Trump is willing to tell organizations like the Sierra Club to go eff themselves and resume mining.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Depends on which ones you're referring to and whether or not President Trump is willing to tell organizations like the Sierra Club to go eff themselves and resume mining.

The United States is accustomed to plundering and sourcing from other countries. Rebuilding the rare earth industry in the U.S. would take 5-8 years and a huge investment, while Trump's term only has three years left. Capital prefers finance and AI; is there any capital willing to invest in the rare earth industry? When Trump asked capital to invest in oil in Venezuela, the response was very lukewarm.

During Obama's administration, the '2010 Rare Earth and Critical Materials Revitalization Act' was enacted. It is now 2026. Trump is even less trustworthy than Obama.

I am very curious. Trump only has four years of political experience. In China, his qualifications wouldn't even allow him to be a village official. How did you all manage to elect a madman as president.....

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The United States is accustomed to plundering and sourcing from other countries. Rebuilding the rare earth industry in the U.S. would take 5-8 years and a huge investment, while Trump's term only has three years left. Capital prefers finance and AI; is there any capital willing to invest in the rare earth industry? When Trump asked capital to invest in oil in Venezuela, the response was very lukewarm.

During Obama's administration, the '2010 Rare Earth and Critical Materials Revitalization Act' was enacted. It is now 2026. Trump is even less trustworthy than Obama.

I am very curious. Trump only has four years of political experience. In China, his qualifications wouldn't even allow him to be a village official. How did you all manage to elect a madman as president.....

Through the same mechanisms that allowed a community agitator who never held a real job in his life to serve as President for 8 years.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Through the same mechanisms that allowed a community agitator who never held a real job in his life to serve as President for 8 years.

Ukraine is worse than the United States; their president has no political experience at all.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Hey are you suddenly greenlighting us to go into the threads in the China Defense forum and start posting replies? I'm sure they'll be real happy about you asking us to do that.

We certainly have no problem doing that if you'd like.

do not compare a coping thread to serious threads

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Ok folks, we're starting to drift a bit and I too am guilty. Let's bring it back in bounds.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

do not compare a coping thread to serious threads

Why do we have to be constricted by what you say?

I think the multiple Chinese members in this thread are just greenlighting us to reply posting and "ruining Chinese member created threads" in the China defensive forum. To make PDF Admins happy we don't do that.

@AZ_HighCountry they do this..and then do a group cry when it is done to them.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Why do we have to be constricted by what you say?

I think the multiple Chinese members in this thread are just greenlighting us to reply posting and "ruining Chinese member created threads" in the China defensive forum. To make PDF Admins happy we don't do that.

@AZ_HighCountry they do this..and then do a group cry when it is done to them.

you dont want constrictions from me yet you think you need my greenlight to post something on an open forum??? I m kinda lost here...but go ahead

what i am trying to say is, there will be a dedicate thread for the US six gen once we saw it flying and serious discussions will be held there. this one unfortunately, is not it. no videos, no pics, just hearsay, if empty words were to be taken seriously then India is already a superpower 6 years ago I guess. besides, the thread starter is a well known copium addict on this forum...

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

America rushing to catch up to China is so lame.

China tech still behind, yet to be proven in larger war as USA war machines are proven

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

you dont want constrictions from me yet you think you need my greenlight to post something on an open forum??? I m kinda lost here...but go ahead

what i am trying to say is, there will be a dedicate thread for the US six gen once we saw it flying and serious discussions will be held there. this one unfortunately, is not it. no videos, no pics, just hearsay, if empty words were to be taken seriously then India is already a superpower 6 years ago I guess. besides, the thread starter is a well known copium addict on this forum...

China has its fair share here as well so let's just call it a draw.

As for Americans posting in the Chinese threads; what's stopping you? I see no issue so long as the discourse is polite and respectful.

Once the F-47 is debuted, discussion will most likely continue in this thread. No reason to have yet another thread when one already exists. One of the Chinese members and same with the one of the Americans is famous for that. Mods are working hard to ensure the forum isn't polluted any further than necessary.

 

[Deino]

Interesting report:

F-47 Won’t Be Available Until Mid-2030s, Top Lawmaker Says

A leading congressman said the Air Force's sixth-generation F-47 fighter will not be available until the middle of the 2030s.

www.airandspaceforces.com

The Air Force’s sixth-generation F-47 and the Navy’s F/A-XX fighter won’t be “available” until the mid-2030s, a leading congressman said March 17, which will require the services to keep older jets flying in the interim.

“The question then becomes, what do we do in the meantime?” Rep. Rob Wittman, R-Va., said at the McAleese Defense Programs Conference. Wittman is chair of the House Armed Services Committee’s tactical air and land forces subcommittee. “We have to maintain a fleet of [Navy] F-18s, and then we have to maintain the F-22 [Raptors]. … That’s the only way we create that bridge to the sixth-generation aircraft” like the Air Force’s F-47 and the Navy’s planned F/A-XX.

And I don't want to stick my neck out too far, but — and YES, this timeline is realistic, anything else would be wishful thinking — the US will then be no longer ahead of China as claimed by so many, because by the mid-2030s both the CAC J-36 and the SAC J-XDS will surely already be in service.

Again, I don't want to commit myself 100%, and certainly not make a bet, but by 2030 at the latest — probably sooner — I expect with almost absolute certainty that the first pre-serial/LRIP aircraft will have been delivered and are in service by one of the FTTB brigades.

 

[dbc]

why are we discussing Chinese 6th Gen on a F-47 thread?

 

[Ali_Baba]

why are we discussing Chinese 6th Gen on a F-47 thread?

The compare and contrast of the two programmes is a fair point here, given that if follow your view, then there is "no where" to make that statement, be it here, or in the Chinese thread.