Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

Sources close to the Democrats in the Senate: US War Powers resolution (powers to stop Trump from war in Iran) are not likely to pass. Source:CNN

Then this can only be interpreted as an approval by the Senate for the war.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

That is the dilemma, isn't it?

If you only attack Israel and US assets in the region, that amounts to not much because, at the end of the day, they can withstand more than Iran can deal with. Especially the US, as it was untouched by this, you may destroy a few bases here and there, but it's not something they can't rebuild.

Spreading it out and hitting everyone, which is what the Iranian doing now, would mean you spread out the damage, the area increase as the intensity decrease, because you only have a finite amount of missile and drone and if you have more target to hit, that may or may not have any direct impact on the war, that mean the damage intensity is spreading out.

So if Iran wants to win, it can't win by attacking everyone, because that will be like Nazi Germany bombing civilian targets in London instead of military targets. The US and Israel would be glad if Iran kept on doing what it is doing. After all, the damage was shared equally; it didn't hurt them that much. On the other hand, if Iran focuses on US and Israel asset in the area, can they really set the American and IDF back? Very likely to be a no, in fact, it will open Iran more on the attack, remember the majority of the stuff the US sent is with 5th Fleet, now anchor outside Israel at the Mediterranean, but that's not the only US asset in the area, Diego Garcia was not use (as the UK not allowing them to) and the 3rd Fleet and 6th Fleet was not used. No US assets are coming from the South into the Strait of Hormuz, so it would not be good if Iran focuses on all the targets going North.

On the other hand, I don't think Trump care about American casualties at all......

Well US and its allies may run out of interceptors even before Iran runs out of BMs. Even if Iran does run out of BMs, they can endlessly produce the killer drones. Those are not very complex or expensive but they can keep US forces out of their bases indefinitely, disrupt entire oil supply, reduce US interests and personal presence in the region and can end the war on Iran's terms.

The cost of war, ammunition, allies pressure, US investments, interests in region, US consulates, embassies, CIA stations in whole of the region is on stand still. Even US companies like Amazon were targeted. US do not have time with itself. Its warships which have exhausted their missiles can't even reload at sea. Iran has time with itself. All that noise of regime change, cutting head of the snake, communication jamming, EW and what not as per US / Israeli statements seems to have not much effect over Iran. US was hoping a quick action by first massive strikes to subdue Iran but they have no solution now. What they really wanted to achieve? Make Iran less of a threat by regime change ? or by finishing its offensive capabilities? Well, Iran's regime is going nowhere and it has become and will become even bigger of a threat then it ever was. Whenver its over, they will prepare for next confrontation with even more determination and furiosity.

Iran has built itself with this kind of war. It has enormous stamina to absorb bombing campaigns. It's command structure is decentralized that's why they are able to hit back so hard at such wide scale without even blinking. US spectacularly failed to eliminate Taliban in 20 years and Trump thinks it can remove IRGC ? Its not South America.

 

[dbc]

important question to Americans here:

would media led by Murdochs (and now Media is owned by Larry owner of SQL), allow news of body bags arrival?

or

would media allow, news of US soldiers, who sadly have lost lives in action!


I doubt, the would ever allows such news to come out!

or any such news will be withheld and presented as 'stale'

Stupid question, US combat fatalities can't be hidden indefinitely. Especially not when the next of kin are notified or remains are returned to them. Notifications can be delayed on one pretext or the other but not for very long.

 

[RescueRanger]

Then this can only be interpreted as an approval by the Senate for the war.

Democrats don't have enough votes they would need 5/6 anti trump Republicans to even get it into Congress.

 

[j_hungary]

There where you said that you will not abandon bases in gulf, how else you will come back in those unless you win?

Huh? First of all, I am not aware that we are "exiting" from those bases to begin with; Fifth Fleet Fleet Support Activities are still in Bahrain, and CENTCOM is still at Al Udeid.

Secondly, even if we had left, why can we only come back if we won? And we can't come back if we "lose" I am sorry, I don't realise Iran win by occupying Qatar or Bahrain.......

 

[mulj]

The U.S is getting desperate, calling on the Iranian people, the Kurds ANYBODY to do the job for them. And everybody saving nah, we’re currently not interested. This is the problem when you are so throughly detested that even turncoats and rebels telly you to EF off. Iran just needs to play its card right. Iran will win.

I am bookmarking this. Iran may not have a proper airforce, but completely uncontested will still be a challenge.

These are full of shit just extended propaganda, they have air superiority from day one for their air planes.

 

[Comandante]

What air defence threat?

"Air threat" means that they can't be sure that the air defenses are down. Although it could become active at any time, and then their planes would be shot down. Iran still has air defenses that are undetectable.

 

[RescueRanger]

"Air threat" means that they can't be sure that the air defenses are down. Although it could become active at any time, and then their planes would be shot down. Iran still has air defenses that are undetectable.

Okay.

 

[mulj]

Huh? First of all, I am not aware that we are "exiting" from those bases to begin with; Fifth Fleet Fleet Support Activities are still in Bahrain, and CENTCOM is still at Al Udeid.

Secondly, even if we had left, why can we only come back if we won? I am sorry, I don't realise Iran win by occupying Qatar or Bahrain.......

Sorry, i was under impression that those are evacuated completely. Good for Iran they are not then as those are easy targets until obliteration.
Because Iran will impose peace conditions as winning party?

 

[Hayabusa]

HE IS BACK FROM THE DEAD.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Stupid question, US combat fatalities can't be hidden indefinitely. Especially not when the next of kin are notified or remains are returned to them. Notifications can be delayed on one pretext or the other but not for very long.

stupid enough, you never answered the question!

 

[mulj]

Sources close to the Democrats in the Senate: US War Powers resolution (powers to stop Trump from war in Iran) are not likely to pass. Source:CNN

This strenghten iranian hand significantly but i think they do not care about it at all.

 

[Distant_Observer]

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

 

[tsunset]