Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Yep, but there has to be some morality as a nation. Its exactly as theft and extortion.

Like I can go and snatch my neighbors property just because I have guns. Rule of engagements, international laws, intl orgs, everything is trampled by this evil US regime.


welcome to the real world, all else only a facade

remarkably, all tech, offered by the west is also a facade!
 
I agree, and I will add that any new administration is likely to follow the same attitude. Americans have had it with being the villain for everybody and their nephew, despite not being one (yes, I said it on PDF), so we might as well act as suits us, and us alone.

The kind of govt in place in US, you better be beware saying "us or ours". Day may come soon, when ICE won't see documents but skin color. Given your origin, you have to be careful :)

and btw, morality is required for a nation state. Otherwise its ticking bomb for itself too.
 
We waste more than that on stupid crap on a weekly basis.

Right.
I live on a thickly wooded acreage property and if all the trees were to be turned into $100 bills and stuffed into suitcases to 'buy influence' overseas in militias, govts, politicians, media, spies ... oh how easy! And there wouldn't even be any 'inflation' in America from such actions. And the trees would grow back on my property.
The Power of the USD as the Global Reserve Currency is Enormous!
 
Actually, insurance at a reasonable rate is a bigger deal than USN escort, especially if it also extends to non-US flagged ships.

Trump has made gas prices and inflation a big political issue, so we might even see a release of oil from the US strategic reserve and forbearance towards Russian exports. He is already trying to bully the UK on the North Sea oil.
Trump has offered the US Govt will underwrite vessels if they wish to proceed with it.
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Please avoid personal attacks!

specially when someone is way above your age

you cant take away someone's opinion, it's their right

there is no right or wrong here, only an opinion
I took no offense whatsoever. Tensions are high.

Some of the commentary I make is because I know these people. Remember, I grew up during the Vietnam era.
 
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More signs that the civil leadership of Iran and IRGC are acting independently from each other.
 
I think many Americans here will agree with me when I say this, that the Trump administration doesn't care how the world views it, or thinks of it. It will only do what is necessary to safeguard its own self-interests.
Most American administrations care primarily about American self-interest, but the Trump cabinet is full of uncouth louts chosen for personal loyalty rather than competence. Many of them are also personally corrupt. Quite a contrast from the Trump 1.0 cabinet, which had some great people, at least to start with.
 
The Hormuz Strait will be a graveyard for American ships due to Iran Anti-Shipping. Kill them all!
IRGC does have a lot of anti-ship cruise, ballistic options plus drones.

Hormuz is quite narrow and swarms of IRGC munitions can overwhelm them.

But if USN is going through with this, they must be very confident in the efficacy of their AD and the speed of their OODA loop.

Or is it all hubris and an impending disaster?
 
But if USN is going through with this, they must be very confident in the efficacy of their AD and the speed of their OODA loop.

Or is it all hubris and an impending disaster?

We shall know in a few short days.
 
Trump has offered the US Govt will underwrite vessels if they wish to proceed with it.
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"If necessary".. it is necessary...bring some ships into the Persian gulf ..near our coast and zagros mountains.
 

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