Turkish Missile Programs

[MMM-E]

3000km is good, but not enough, Turkey should look to reach IRMB status soon.

Atleast 5000-5500km range to be a credible deterrent for anyone trying to carry out BS, and thinking they are too far from being hit.

Potential threats : Greece , Israel , Iran , Russia , The UAE

1.000 km covers entire Greece and Israel

3.000 km is enough .... IRBMs are very expensive and using them without a nuclear warhead would be pointless.
Even 2,000 km covers the entire region and provides complete deterrence

Turkiye to Moscow : 1.612 km
2.000 km covers İran, The UAE


India is also among the potential threats.
from Hakkari ( Turkiye ) to New Delhi ( India ) : 3200 km

Turkiye should build Arsenal Ship ( Joint Strike Ship ) to carry 100 CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missiles to operate with Carrier Strike Group in the Indian Ocean .... even from Qatar-Somalia

South Korea is actively developing its own version of an "Arsenal Ship" concept

 

[Eşbah]

Upset? What do you mean?

Post in thread 'Turkish Missile Programs'

Mar 8, 2026

So Turkey/Iran/Saudi Arabia will all go to the route of nuclear ICBM to ensure not a single P5 nations will be safe, since North Korea was the first one to open that Pandora box.

Turkey will not pursue that course until it achieves self-sufficiency in conventional military technology, such as ships, aircrafts, satellites, tanks, engines, submarines, radars, air defense systems, missiles, carrier systems like ICBMs and more.

In addition, our leftist parties such as CHP and others - essentially the Turkish opposition - would never agree to the risk of facing sanctions. They are...

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[Haz]

Post in thread 'Turkish Missile Programs'

Mar 8, 2026

So Turkey/Iran/Saudi Arabia will all go to the route of nuclear ICBM to ensure not a single P5 nations will be safe, since North Korea was the first one to open that Pandora box.

Turkey will not pursue that course until it achieves self-sufficiency in conventional military technology, such as ships, aircrafts, satellites, tanks, engines, submarines, radars, air defense systems, missiles, carrier systems like ICBMs and more.

In addition, our leftist parties such as CHP and others - essentially the Turkish opposition - would never agree to the risk of facing sanctions. They are...

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Oh yes, it's more sad that upset. If these are all the challenges and conditions Turkey must overcome before it can build nuclear weapons, then it will be decades before they can build one.

We urgently need a nuclear Turkey right now before it's too late, I'm not sure if any country in the region has much time left before they are attacked and destroyed by Israel, especially Turkey.

I'm also deeply worried about Syria, Israel just announced they are going to do a "military exercise" in the Golan heights, and are moving in significant amount of troops and equipment. It's very concerning, it sounds like a pretext for a full invasion and occupation of our Southern region when we are at our weakest and completely defenceless. We're on edge right now. We can really use the protection of a nuclear armed Turkey right now until we can develop our own defences, but I'm afraid it's already too late

 

[hyperman]

Oh yes, it's more sad that upset. If these are all the challenges and conditions Turkey must overcome before it can build nuclear weapons, then it will be decades before they can build one.

We urgently need a nuclear Turkey right now before it's too late, I'm not sure if any country in the region has much time left before they are attacked and destroyed by Israel, especially Turkey.

I'm also deeply worried about Syria, Israel just announced they are going to do a "military exercise" in the Golan heights, and are moving in significant amount of troops and equipment. It's very concerning, it sounds like a pretext for a full invasion and occupation of our Southern region when we are at our weakest and completely defenceless. We're on edge right now. We can really use the protection of a nuclear armed Turkey right now until we can develop our own defences, but I'm afraid it's already too late

No, the Window for the Israelis launching anything in Southern Syria is closed as of right now, especially with the collapse of the PKK in the north, and Syria consolidating. They are too busy right now with Iran and Hezbollah to be worried about Syria regardless, and a land war is no joke. especially trying to push into Daraa with 1 million sunnis in the south.

I do hope Hezbollah is able to win against them in Southern Lebanon, a win for Hezbollah there would further solidify Syria's position in Daraa.

 

[hyperman]

Potential threats : Greece , Israel , Iran , Russia , The UAE

1.000 km covers entire Greece and Israel

3.000 km is enough .... IRBMs are very expensive and using them without a nuclear warhead would be pointless.
Even 2,000 km covers the entire region and provides complete deterrence

Turkiye to Moscow : 1.612 km
2.000 km covers İran, The UAE
View attachment 183995

India is also among the potential threats.
from Hakkari ( Turkiye ) to New Delhi ( India ) : 3200 km

Turkiye should build Arsenal Ship ( Joint Strike Ship ) to carry 100 CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missiles to operate with Carrier Strike Group in the Indian Ocean .... even from Qatar-Somalia

South Korea is actively developing its own version of an "Arsenal Ship" concept
View attachment 183996

Ankara to Delhi is like 4,500km, and you never want to launch a missile at max range but rather a missile with a longer range but at a shorter distance, for kinematic reasons like maneuverability and adjustment in the flight path.

I've done a lot of mapping on this, to reach India and cover India for a decent distance, or to hit deeper parts of Russia, where Russia keeps strategic assets as part of its strategic depth, and to cover all of Europe, an IRBM would be needed.

The South Koreans have built the Hyunmoo-5 with a 5,500km range, and they don't have nuclear weapons and a similar sized and capable country as Turkey, if its viable for them, it should be viable for Turkiye.

btw, another reason for the Hyunmoo-5 and being that range, but South Korea using it for a much smaller range, is the throw weight. South Korea has designed this missile to also be fired 600km into North Korea, with a massive warhead, to do massive damage, and as an earth penetrator, like a GBU-57. The throw weight allows for that massive warhead when not being used for the 5,500km strike, but a 600km strike.

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Ballistic Missile With Absolutely Massive Bunker-Buster Warhead Fielded By South Korea: Report

The mysterious Hyunmoo-5 short-range ballistic missile is estimated to carry a monstrous conventional warhead weighing over 17,000 pounds. The mysterious Hyunmoo-5 is understood to carry a monstrous conventional warhead weighing more than 17,000 pounds.

www.twz.com

 

[Haz]

No, the Window for the Israelis launching anything in Southern Syria is closed as of right now, especially with the collapse of the PKK in the north, and Syria consolidating. They are too busy right now with Iran and Hezbollah to be worried about Syria regardless, and a land war is no joke. especially trying to push into Daraa with 1 million sunnis in the south.

I do hope Hezbollah is able to win against them in Southern Lebanon, a win for Hezbollah there would further solidify Syria's position in Daraa.

I hope you are right, but why on earth would they be doing a "military exercise" right now when in the middle of a war? That's a major red flag, they have called up 90K reservists recently, idk what they need that many, Lebanon alone is not enough to justify such a huge force, and moving significant amount into the Golan heights at the same time sounds like a pretext for invasion into Syria too. It doesn't make sense otherwise to conduct a large military exercise at this current time in that area unless it's a cover for something else.

 

[hyperman]

I hope you are right, but why on earth would they be doing a "military exercise" right now when in the middle of a war? That's a major red flag, they have called up 90K reservists recently, idk what they need that many, Lebanon alone is not enough to justify such a huge force, and moving significant amount into the Golan heights at the same time sounds like a pretext for invasion into Syria too. It doesn't make sense otherwise to conduct a large military exercise at this current time in that area unless it's a cover for something else.

They flew into Syria for the Bekaa raid. To be honest idk what they are doing, but I don't think its an invasion. Lets see how things go.

 

[MMM-E]

The South Koreans have built the Hyunmoo-5 with a 5,500km range, and they don't have nuclear weapons and a similar sized and capable country as Turkey, if its viable for them, it should be viable for Turkiye.

S.Korea needs to cover entire China which is the biggest threat with North Korea


1 -- Europe is our ally in NATO .. (No need IRBM with range of 5000 km)

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2 -- 3.000 km is enough to hit even Russian's most strategic facilities including
Votkinsk machine building Plant which produce ICBMs , ISKANDER , KINZHAL and ORESHNIK Ballistic Missiles

also AVANGARD machine building Plant which produce S400 , S500 Air defense Missiles

also Perm , Ulyanovsk , Kazan , Chelyabinsk , Reutov which hosts missile fuels, kamikaze drones and cruise missiles production facilities

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3 -- We can not reach China with 5.500 km Ballistic Missile

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4 -- 5.500 km can cover India

but the price of a 5000 km range IRBM is 20-30 million dollars

100 x ANGI-5 Missiles = $3 billion to strike strategic targets in Turkiye
(These types of missiles are generally necessary for nuclear deterrence)

If we build Arsenal Ship then we can carry 100 CENK Ballistic Missiles ( with range of 2.000-3.000 km ) to attack on India from the Indian Ocean , from near Qatar or Somalia , if needed

We should focus on air launched Ballistic Missile up to 2.000 km like Russian KINZHAL ... but still expensive $10 million per unit

 

[MMM-E]

South Korea has designed this missile to also be fired 600km into North Korea, with a massive warhead, to do massive damage, and as an earth penetrator, like a GBU-57.

Turkiye has advantage to arm CENK Ballistic Missile with thermobaric warhead


GAZAP ( WRATH ) Thermobaric warhead for Turkish Ballistic Missiles
It contains 10,000 particles. weighing approximately 970 kg with high destructive power. With a rate of approximately 10.6 particles per square meter, it poses a significant threat in neutralizing field targets and is three times more powerful than its counterparts

Gazap’s thermobaric blast reaches 5,432°F (3,000°C) delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold.

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[hyperman]

Europe is our ally in NATO

Cmon man.. think about where and who Turkey has disagreements with. If a conflict breaks out over Cyprus or the Zionist entity which keeps saying "Turkey is next", or a conflict with Greece, who do you think these "Allies" will side with?

We can not reach China

Who is saying anything about China.

South Korea isn't building the Hyunmoo-5 for China, it can effectively cover China with 3000km MRBM.

The IRBMs are not just about distance, but throw weight. The Same missile that goes 5,500km, also can be used for a 600km hit. Why b/c the 600km hit would end up using a massive non nuclear warhead.

So range is not fixed. Its a matter or warhead size/throw weight and range.

The reason South Korea built it, is for North Korea, not China. Its a solution to counter a nuclear opponent and to counter one who is deeply embedded underground.

Gazap and other deep penetrators for them to be put onto a missile requires a bigger missile, that can account for the throw weight.

Take a look at the article I linked. This is very much a very useful and possibly critical element in counter a nuclear adversary or an adversary that has command centers deep underground when you may not have a clean path to air superiority againt where you can drop a gravity bomb. Even now, Iran has prevented gravity bombs from fighter jets, and they are relying on standoff munitions.

Ballistic Missile With Absolutely Massive Bunker-Buster Warhead Fielded By South Korea: Report

The mysterious Hyunmoo-5 short-range ballistic missile is estimated to carry a monstrous conventional warhead weighing over 17,000 pounds. The mysterious Hyunmoo-5 is understood to carry a monstrous conventional warhead weighing more than 17,000 pounds.

www.twz.com

btw, the Arsenal ships South Korea is building, carrier 2-4 of these missiles.

 

[MMM-E]

Cmon man.. think about where and who Turkey has disagreements with. If a conflict breaks out over Cyprus or the Zionist entity which keeps saying "Turkey is next", or a conflict with Greece, who do you think these "Allies" will side with?

in 1974 , Europe and USA did nothing against Turkiye when we were even 50 times weaker than today

Nobody will fight Turkiye for Greece , maybe just France
And there will not be a long-term war with Greece , The US and Europe don't want the Turks to take the Greek islands, so they will end the conflict within a few days.

The only thing some Countries can do is provide weapons. Otherwise, they won't directly wage war against Turkiye

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And Nobody says Turkiye is next , except social media clowns , FETO-PKK Terrorists and Greeks

Former Israeli PM said that Turkiye is new Iran ..... but Turkiye is a NATO Mebmer to develop weapons against Russia and Iran too

Turkiye has no reason to attack Israel unless Israel attacks Türkiye.

USA can not fight Turkiye and Israel can not do anything without USA
There isn't a valid reason anyway.

 

[MMM-E]

Take a look at the article I linked. This is very much a very useful and possibly critical element in counter a nuclear adversary or an adversary that has command centers deep underground when you may not have a clean path to air superiority againt where you can drop a gravity bomb. Even now, Iran has prevented gravity bombs from fighter jets, and they are relying on standoff munitions.

Gravity Bombs have limited range ( 25-100 km )
but I am talking about air launched Ballistic Missile with range of 2.000 km like Russian KINZHAL to attack enemy targets from safe distance

in future , KAAN can carry 4.000 kg air launched Ballistic Missile underbelly as like the MIG-31 with KINZHAL Missile

And because it's launched from the air, its range is at least twice as long.


Btw IRBMs with range of 5.000 km has big CEP ( 100-150 m )
And we cannot use these missiles as a swarm attack.

 

[MMM-E]

btw, the Arsenal ships South Korea is building, carrier 2-4 of these missiles.

We can design bigger Ship ( 200 m ) than S.Korean one ( 150 m )

something like this to carry 100 Ballistic Missiles

Our TCG DERYA Ship ( 200 m ) design can be used as a basis.


I magine , 2 Arsenal Ships with 200 TAYFUN Block4 , CENK and GEZGIN Ballistic-Cruise Missiles ( range of 1.000-2000 km ) to join the Carrier Strike Group for great fire power

To arm TF-2000 Destroyers with just HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Missiles to protect Carrier Strike Group

 

[Foinikas]

Potential threats : Greece , Israel , Iran , Russia , The UAE

1.000 km covers entire Greece and Israel

3.000 km is enough .... IRBMs are very expensive and using them without a nuclear warhead would be pointless.
Even 2,000 km covers the entire region and provides complete deterrence

Turkiye to Moscow : 1.612 km
2.000 km covers İran, The UAE
View attachment 183995

India is also among the potential threats.
from Hakkari ( Turkiye ) to New Delhi ( India ) : 3200 km

Turkiye should build Arsenal Ship ( Joint Strike Ship ) to carry 100 CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missiles to operate with Carrier Strike Group in the Indian Ocean .... even from Qatar-Somalia

South Korea is actively developing its own version of an "Arsenal Ship" concept
View attachment 183996

Turkey is preparing for aggressive offensive imperialistic expansive war. Peace is in danger.

 

[MS Sandhu]

If we build Arsenal Ship then we can carry 100 CENK Ballistic Missiles ( with range of 2.000-3.000 km ) to attack on India from the Indian Ocean , from near Qatar or Somalia , if needed

What if some nasty Indian submarine gets close enough to sink that 100 cenk ballistic missile carrying warship before it even reaches its firing location?