Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

Mangled missile fragments purporting to be from the deadly strikes that hit a naval base and elementary school in southern Iran on Feb. 28 bear the markings of an American cruise missile, according to an analysis by The New York Times. Evidence analyzed by The New York Times has been mounting that the school was hit during a series of U.S. strikes targeting an adjacent naval base. https://trib.al/LoDe9f4

 

[safriz]

It is fairly easy to look at the missile and identify what it is and where it came from. Blaming 'Iran' may also be futile since the missile and drone launches are being launched autonomously by commanders without central co-ordination. There is no one "Iranian Military", but multiple Iranian commanders. There is probably not even "Iranian civilian government" to blame.

Yes , that may be true and their entire military leadership was wiped out twice in less than an year.
This time they had to decentralise the military and give authority to isolated military commanders.
They might be making decisions on their own.

 

[Sinan]

Iran now denying the attack.
Then how and why was Erdogan so sure that the two missiles entering Turkish airspace were fired from Iran ?
As I mentioned elsewhere, there seems to be stark disagreement between Iranian civilian government and IRGC about who to attack and who not to.

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Balistic trajectory, i think there is no question for Turkey that missiles come from Iran.

Is there are break-up in the command of chain, some Israel engaged commanders firing these missiles. All these not important in the eyes of Türkiye. I think missile was headed to İncirlik Airbase.

If Iran manages to hit a Turkish Military base in Turkey. There will be consequences.

 

[BeingHuman]

Iran is in talks with China to buy supersonic anti‑ship missiles, sources tell Reuters. The weapons would significantly improve Iran’s strike capability, and could threaten U.S. ships nearby, experts say https://reut.rs/4cuH20z

They have had several agreement post previous TP3 with china how much has been materialised is yet to be seen. Maybe not in my lifetime. Disappointing tbh

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Iran with 1.3% Debt are having their schoolchildren bombed to pieces. Not sure if that's a win. But you do you.

While I agree that not making nukes allowed parasitic punks bot only sustain an unchallenged colony but take liberties in periphery. Iran should have had a demonstrable deterrent. They didn't and that is history. However, I don't think anyone was expecting a route Persian Gulf either.
And at this point it will be what they can build upon. It is always freedom first... and perhaps it will spread.

 

[Immortals]

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[Bengal71]

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His TACO name was so apt.

 

[Fatman17]

https://wapo.st/4daejOA

Tomahawk hitting the girls school

 

[RescueRanger]

Iran is in talks with China to buy supersonic anti‑ship missiles, sources tell Reuters. The weapons would significantly improve Iran’s strike capability, and could threaten U.S. ships nearby, experts say https://reut.rs/4cuH20z

Sir such reports should always be taken with pinch of salt. Even cargolux refused any flights to Iran after last time.

 

[EugeneP]

But the interesting question is, what are the commanders basing their targeting decisions on? If there are 10 commanders, do they think alike or completely differently? If they are schooled in a particular war doctrine, they should be thinking similarly. It can't be that one decides we should fire at Israel, another at Turkey, another at UAE etc., If we have a total loss of command and control in U.S. during a war for example, I don't think a commander will fire a missile into Canada and another into Mexico. At least I hope so!

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

short term

That is not possible without a huge commitment and consent of gulf sheikhdoms that their city states maybe reduced to rubble.
US did not consult nor apprise them... after attacking Iran did not defend them... it is clear US only wants to use their shoulder and hide behind their frame to serve political and escathological objectives of zion.

 

[vizier]

That is not possible without a huge commitment and consent of gulf sheikhdoms that their city states maybe reduced to rubble.
US did not consult nor apprise them... after attacking Iran did not defend them... it is clear US only wants to use their shoulder and hide behind their frame to serve political and escathological objectives of zion.

either dimona or as you said totally taking out oil infrastructure of several sheikhdoms can be a deterrant in case if nuclear is used or Irans oil sites are attacked or some similar redlines. However if these guys find an option to use nukes that they can get away with be sure that they will use it starting with tactical nukes. Waiting is not an option for Iran and thinking beforehand and having deterrence against such scenarios is.

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

Some reports of missile/drone strikes in the UAE

 

[UKBengali]

You are just making up your own facts.

Never have there ever been 8-10 superpowers. Although there has been more great powers at a time, super powers are a modern concept which the Soviet Union and U.S. were peers at one point.

Please show me how Türkiye is controlled by these “neocons”. Türkiye is an independent country with its own independent foreign policy.

What you described is what has always been the case. The strong prey on the weak but also dominance comes and goes. No country will forever be on top.

China and Russia both play under the same system controlled by the United States. This does not mean those countries can’t act or do not act independently.

Are you aware that THAAD radar is being used to protect the Zionist entity?

Turkey does not have any control over it.

 

[Gripen9]

Chalo usual suspects

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