Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

"In 2025, Saudi Arabia and the U.S. held Red Sands 2025, the largest counter‑drone live‑fire exercise in the Middle East, testing 20 different C‑UAS platforms"

Will saudi still needs ours C-UAS help
Not anymore - they procured a lot of this stuff 2022-2024 - that was the time to sell.
Our jackasses were still stuck in
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i have a really bad feeling about recent visits of our FM and PM to riyadh. i hope my sixth sense is wrong 🫤

It is a bad time yaar, no good can come of this for anyone, Pakistan has to do what is in its interests and that is the least bad option. I fear we may be going to war with Iran soon. I hope not, but I think we will
 
It is a bad time yaar, no good can come of this for anyone, Pakistan has to do what is in its interests and that is the least bad option. I fear we may be going to war with Iran soon. I hope not, but I think we will
its really weird, when even the goras en mass worldwide are turning against jews for their crimes against muslims, its the muslim countries despite all that are willing to take the fall for jews and whitewash jews' crimes.
 
Once again, when a small group of individuals completely disconnected from the people they “represent” are able to take decisions on the behalf of that population, without the need to consult them or ask their opinions, this is what happens.
 
What can Pakistan offer in such a situation? It is not an offensive on the ground that Pakistan is more suitable to defend against because we can bring manpower on the ground for the Saudis who lack it.

We can offer some assets in the air but the Saudis have their entire Air Force doing the same in a defensive role. On top of that, they have US air defense batteries operating as well. Perhaps Pakistan can help advise and tighten up the air defense posture of the Saudis to become more proactive.

I think Saudis know what and where Pakistan can help and where it is a moot point to ask Pakistan to assist. Pakistan will absolutely support Saudi territorial integrity. But these missile attacks are neither here or there. The Saudis know that Iranians aren't really doing this with the grand design of destabilizing KSA. Iran's approach is "if we go down, we take everyone with us".

Tough situation all around.
  1. We ask China to drop it's military support for Iran.
  2. We ask China to force Russia to drop it's military support for Iran.
  3. Co-ordinate with Saudi Arabia, Turkiye, the US, France and the UK to launch airstrikes on military sites on Iran.
  4. If Iran retaliates with missile attacks against Pakistan, hit Iran's military sites with ballistic missiles.
  5. Secretly ask China to help with electronic, cyber and space warfare against Iran.
I don't want to list the remaining two options that I have in my mind.
 
Once again, when a small group of individuals completely disconnected from the people they “represent” are able to take decisions on the behalf of that population, without the need to consult them or ask their opinions, this is what happens.
thank god we arent consulting the population.

If we did, we'd have:

dont go to war with the taliban, but dont talk to them because they're mentally retarded. Go dig Zia up and tell him not to fund them.

Send our army to liberate palestine

Nuke israel

Nuke america

Nuke afghanistan

Nuke India

Nuke ourselves

Give up Nukes

Invade Israel

Protect Iran

etc.
 
  1. We ask China to drop it's military support for Iran.
  2. We ask China to force Russia to drop it's military support for Iran.
  3. Co-ordinate with Saudi Arabia, Turkiye, the US, France and the UK to launch airstrikes on military sites on Iran.
  4. If Iran retaliates with missile attacks against Pakistan, hit Iran's military sites with ballistic missiles.
  5. Secretly ask China to help with electronic, cyber and space warfare against Iran.
I don't want to list the remaining two options that I have in my mind.
I can't come up with such cerebral thoughts even in my inebriated state.
 
  1. We ask China to drop it's military support for Iran.
  2. We ask China to force Russia to drop it's military support for Iran.
  3. Co-ordinate with Saudi Arabia, Turkiye, the US, France and the UK to launch airstrikes on military sites on Iran.
  4. If Iran retaliates with missile attacks against Pakistan, hit Iran's military sites with ballistic missiles.
  5. Secretly ask China to help with electronic, cyber and space warfare against Iran.
I don't want to list the remaining two options that I have in my mind.
Just because we ask, you think 1&2 are possible? China and Russia have their own calculations and priorities and Pakistan asking them means very little.

#3, why would Pakistan want to orchestrate airstrikes on Iran when the US/IDFAF already have air superiority and their sortie rate is much higher than anything KSA can generate?

#3&4, Pakistan does not want to be seen in a situation where it further exacerbates the conflict between KSA-Iran. 30% of our own population is Shia'a with emotional and religious affiliation to Iran. That is a very tight spot to be in.

#5, Why would China do that when they are allied with Iran? The single largest recipient of Iranian oil is China. Why would they do such things to help Pakistan defang Iran further?

Pakistan should focus on defensive measures through tighter air defense planning for the Saudis to limit the impact of the strikes on KSA. In addition, Pakistan should continue to prevail on Iran to stop its missile attacks on KSA (KSA should tell the US to stop their operations from any of the local Saudi bases). At this point at least, going on the offensive against Iran is bad for KSA, bad for Pakistan and obviously good for Israel and the US.
 
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even if our leaders betray our own muslim brethren in favor of kafirs for short term gains and get billions of dollars of investments/loans in return, we ordinary pakistanis will get nothing, not even a cent will reach the normal pakistanis, all the blood money will be siphoned off to foreign bank accounts of children of pakistani elites in western countries while we ordinary pakistanis will be the ones left to face the reckoning of our leaders' ill adviced decisions for years to come.
 
Just because we ask, you think 1&2 are possible? China and Russia have their own calculations and priorities and Pakistan asking them means very little. ...
Yes. Who's more important to China, Iran or Pakistan?

Both China and Russia gave up on Venezuela last year, and Russia also gave up on Syria not so long ago.

China is the largest exporter of goods on Earth. Who are their largest importers?

#3, why would Pakistan want to orchestrate airstrikes on Iran when the US/IDFAF already have air superiority and their sortie rate is much higher than anything KSA can generate? ...
Pakistan, because they are attacking Saudi Arabia, and we have a defence pact that says attack on one is attack on both. We are under attack.

Why should we allow anyone to attack us like this?

#3&4, Pakistan does not want to be seen in a situation where it further exacerbates the conflict between KSA-Iran. 30% of our own population is Shia'a with emotional and religious affiliation to Iran. That is a very tight spot to be in.
No choice. War is being imposed on Saudi Arabia, and Iranians think this is a joke.

#5, Why would China do that when they are allied with Iran? The single largest recipient of Iranian oil is China. Why would they do such things to help Pakistan defang Iran further? ...
They can get the same oil from Russia. China's exports are more important than their oil imports from one country, that might not be exporting anything soon.

Pakistan should focus on defensive measures through tighter air defense planning for the Saudis to limit the impact of the strikes on KSA. At this point at least, going on the offensive against Iran is bad for KSA, bad for Pakistan and obviously good for Israel and the US.
Pakistan is a nuclear power. Please don't expect Pakistan to take it lying down from a wannabe nuclear power run by some religious fanatics.
 
i have a really bad feeling about recent visits of our FM and PM to riyadh. i hope my sixth sense is wrong 🫤
The Pakistan-Saudi Defence Pact was being worked on since 2022.

All scenarios especially the following 4 were considered:
  • Iranian attack on Saudi Arabia.
  • Zionist attack on Saudi Arabia.
  • Indian attack on Pakistan.
  • Afghan attack on Pakistan.
The pact is fully backed by China.
 
  1. We ask China to drop it's military support for Iran.
  2. We ask China to force Russia to drop it's military support for Iran.
  3. Co-ordinate with Saudi Arabia, Turkiye, the US, France and the UK to launch airstrikes on military sites on Iran.
  4. If Iran retaliates with missile attacks against Pakistan, hit Iran's military sites with ballistic missiles.
  5. Secretly ask China to help with electronic, cyber and space warfare against Iran.
I don't want to list the remaining two options that I have in my mind.

If only the beggar had the Midas touch.
 
Of course, keep making decisions with 0 accountability, I wonder how that could go bad? 🤔
thank god we arent consulting the population.

If we did, we'd have:

dont go to war with the taliban, but dont talk to them because they're mentally retarded. Go dig Zia up and tell him not to fund them.

Send our army to liberate palestine

Nuke israel

Nuke america

Nuke afghanistan

Nuke India

Nuke ourselves

Give up Nukes

Invade Israel

Protect Iran

etc.
 

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