Aftermath of the Iran-US war and its effects on proximities

mythbuster said:
" Projecting our own motivations onto others" ....this is what this shmuck of a writer and Israel as a nation is doing.....revel in your glory till the sunset and sunset is not too far into the future
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What a strange response from someone calling his/herself a mythbuster. Would you care to explain in more detail?
 
Why Pakistan stopped Flights to and from Islamabad Airport
 
Serendipity said:
It is extremely unwise to underestimate the juggernaut that is the US war machine. Emotions can run high, but respect, even if begrudging, for the capability of the parties at war is important. So long as the engagement does not involve close quarter combat Iran is at a tremendous disadvantage. Closing the strait of hormuz may well be an attempt to force that situation in some capacity. Iran's appetite for a long term toe to toe war is likely exponentially greater than the US because fundamentally, this isnt really the war of the US people.

Flipside is that even if this draws to a stalemate, the regional countries will no longer tolerate giving Iran any degree of agency that can be denied. It will be viewed as a second Israel of rhe middle east, but without the backing of the US to coerce diplomatic wins.
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Bro, the true scale of the logistics of the US war machine is apparent in the following tweet:

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It span continents. They have shown the capability to conduct hundreds of strikes in Iran on a daily basis, and Trump recently mentioned that he is still holding back in Iran (strategic bombing not considered). The Iranian state must find a way to address Iranian political dissent and out of this crisis. It does not have a future otherwise, Iran will resemble Gaza down the road if the war continues like that. CENTCOM is not going anywhere so the US can play the long game as well.
 
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LeGenD said:
Bro, the true scale of the logistics of the US war machine is apparent in the following tweet:

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It span continents. They have shown the capability to conduct hundreds of strikes in Iran on a daily basis, and Trump recently mentioned that he is still holding back in Iran (strategic bombing not considered). The Iranian state must find a way to address Iranian political dissent and out of this crisis. Iran does not have a promising future otherwise, it will begin to look like Gaza down the road if this war continues. CENTCOM is not going anywhere so the US can play the long game as well.
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And this is without even tapping into civilian reserve capacity.
 
Flying in logistics and bombers is a Very, very expensive exercise - even the US cannot keep doing this for much longer. China and Russia must be laughing and will ensure that US/Israel are damaged beyond repair in ME.
 
Anyways, this war will make Iran very very weak if it is still standing. Pakistan needs to clean sweep Pakistan from ALL Iranian backed terrorists and supporters from inside Pakistan. Any Iranian supported mullah should be hanged by the balls. And same should be the case for any Saudi supported terrorist faction inside Pakistan. Opportunities like these do not come very often.
 
safriz said:
Why Pakistan stopped Flights to and from Islamabad Airport
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Islamabad Airport is closed for operational reasons - here is the NOTAM
(A0143/26 NOTAMN
Q) OPLR/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/210/3330N07250E060
A) OPLR
B) 2603120500 C) 2603120815
D) 0500-0815
E) FLW RTE SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE WI LAHORE FIR
NOT AVBL FM GND TO FL210 DUE OPR REASONS.
ATS RTE RTE SEGMENT
------- -----------
J139/143/J165/J183 KALMI-RN
J121 INDEK-RN
J122/J129/J130/J147/J149 RN-KASMA
J215/J148/J150/J175 APELI-RN
J131 RN-BOBAM
J186 RN-KAGLO
NOTE:
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1.ARR/DEP OPS AT ISLAMABAD INTL AIRPORT (OPIS)
WILL REMAIN CLSD.
2.ARR ACT TO BRING SUFFICIENT HOLDING FUEL TO
CATER FOR DLA.
F) GND G) FL210)
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We also have a fuel shortage:

Q) OPXX/QFUAP/IV/NBO/A/000/999/2455N06710E005
A) OPXX
B) 2603131300 C) 2603312000EST
E) DUE TO DISRUPTION IN SUPPLY CHAIN OF JET A-1 FUEL,AS A
PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE AIRLINE ARE ADVISED TO CARRY MAX
FUEL FM ABROAD AND MINIMIZE UPLIFT OF JET A-1 FUEL FROM PAKISTAN)
 
ARMalik said:
Flying in logistics and bombers is a Very, very expensive exercise - even the US cannot keep doing this for much longer. China and Russia must be laughing and will ensure that US/Israel are damaged beyond repair in ME.
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American economy isn't small and they have access to bases and maintenance hubs in different regions. Russia and China are unable to protect their allies. Iran is suffering heavy losses and losing its capability to project power:

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Iran can threaten ships in the Persian Gulf but for how long. The US actually benefit from appreciation in oil prices. It is others who cry.
 
well the oil and fertilizer and LNG shortages will be felt by these poor asian economies for long time if this war goes on.
Serious efforts need to be made for peace and end to war.
 
Everyone is feeling the pinch:
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This is a transmission between three Chinese vessels desperately discussing how to break through as they have run out of food and supplies:
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Chaos:
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PK781 said:
well the oil and fertilizer and LNG shortages will be felt by these poor asian economies for long time if this
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Sorry to break it to you, but it won't just be "poor asian economies" - Western economies have a "Just in time" supply chain.
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Remeber that the leaner the supply chains the more exposed they are to the risk of man-made disasters such as war. Just-In-Time (JIT) systems making supply chains even more exposed.

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Big companies are losing millions of dollars even some case billions due to issues occurred from man-made disasters.

This will have global impact - some vulnerable economies may not recover.
 
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Some countries are still getting preferential treatment from Iran all the same - seems like traditional alliances wont really change in the aftermath of the war. Trust building is a long process. Or was it a bargain to have their sailors returned ( would make them hostages technically).

Iran allows 2 Indian LPG tankers to sail through Hormuz: Reuters​


Iran has allowed two Indian-flagged liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) carriers to sail through the Strait of Hormuz, Reuters reported, citing four sources with direct knowledge of the matter.

Bloomberg News reported separately that Iran has arranged special transport to send sailors back from India.
 
Serendipity said:
Some countries are still getting preferential treatment from Iran all the same - seems like traditional alliances wont really change in the aftermath of the war. Trust building is a long process. Or was it a bargain to have their sailors returned ( would make them hostages technically).

Iran allows 2 Indian LPG tankers to sail through Hormuz: Reuters​


Iran has allowed two Indian-flagged liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) carriers to sail through the Strait of Hormuz, Reuters reported, citing four sources with direct knowledge of the matter.

Bloomberg News reported separately that Iran has arranged special transport to send sailors back from India.
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In the end all nations will do what is in their own best strategic interests. Time Pakistanis understood this.
 
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