Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Musings said:
Bro i never celebrate death but on this occasion i will make an exception. Please tell me its a truth
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May I suggest calling it a "sense of great relief" rather than a celebration, if this news is true?

If so, then I can share this sentiment.
 
Mav3rick said:
When Iran continues to attack Saudi interests in the region, on the pretext that those are US interests, Iran itself opens a path for retaliation. Iran is very lucky that the GCC has still not decided to go to war but if it does, the pounding that Iran will receive from all sides would mean Iran becoming another Afghanistan or Iraq.

You claim that Saudi bases are being used by the US to attack Iran, if that is the case then Iran would be justified in retaliating against those bases. However, Iran cannot justify attacking Saudi Financial interests, even those which are with US companies because at the end of the day it is Saudi money and economy at stake first. But again, no other source is reporting use of Middle East bases to launch attacks on Iran.

Even after all this, Iran enjoys massive support from countries like Pakistan, which is trying its best to NOT choose a side. And yet, at the cost of repetition, Iran must also respect the fact that Pakistan has a defence pact with Saudi Arabia which Pakistan will honour even if it means eventually going to war against Iran. This is, however, in Iranian hands. And Iran should be concerned, really concerned, because war with Pakistan could also potentially mean US boots on ground through Pakistan.

Finally, I would advise my Iranian friends, brothers and neighbours to weight things very carefully, there is only so much that others can take from you quietly. Think of the consequences of pushing the entire region into war, against yourself. How long can Pakistan resist the pressure from US to allow the use of Pakistan bases as a launch pad against Iran and how long can Pakistan resist Saudi pressure to go to war against Iran?
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I doubt Iran cares much right now about Saudi financial interests or the remittance money and deferred oil payments Pakistan gets from the Saudis. In fact threatening and damaging those petro$$$ is it's most effective weapon.
 
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VCheng said:
May I suggest calling it a "sense of great relief" rather than a celebration, if this news is true?

If so, then I can share this sentiment.
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I doubt it. I think hes still alive - probably tucking into a cheeseburger and fries sitting in McDonald’s. Imagine - he continues wars coz if he didnt - he would be put on trial. World havoc as long as he doesnt have to face the courts
 
Yasser76 said:
Yeah, I also guess they need to keep many stationed around the world for day to day ops, especially in Pacific.
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...precisely.

People might be under the illusion that their (USAF) entire fleet might be in the US.

They are all over the Globe.

Italy, Germany, Korea, Japan, Taiwan... Hell some tiny Islands in the middle of no where.

If the US were to move their entire fleet from some of those locations...

S. Korea might become lunch for Kim and Taiwan might become histoy by dinner time.
 
The main issue is now, what's the end?



The BM do very little damage, a hundred people being injured a day is nothing and Tehran and Iran has a large population and can sustain daily airstrikes indefinitely, with the way it's going now all that either side is doing is making civilian life difficult but not enough to cause any internal civil strife. Unless things escalate things can stay like for years which is unlikely to happen as costs ramp up for Trump.



What's the options available? Israel uses nuclear weapons? Would be the end of them. Iran invades some gulf countries? The military is basically a militia, will be destroyed by a much more advanced force with air support.

And that's basically it, Israel doesn't have the numbers for any invasion, Iran doesn't have the quality and the Americans won't be willing to risk substantial losses.


The only option is a ceasefire and back to this happening again in 6 months. Both sides can take the punishment that they are giving each other right now for a long time, the Jews are deluded into believing this is there land and they will happily die there, the Iranians are rightfully pissed and have a large populous so despite Israel hitting hard regularly, the people there are used to some form of suffering and struggle so as shit as it must be they will push on.

Even if I understood the Israeli side, any outside observer can see there is no victory here. For Iran, survival is victory, a costly one but they are a strong people.

Either way another stupid war started by idiots trying to change a country that has to many of its own issues.
 
Mav3rick said:
There should absolutely be NO attacks on Iran from US bases in GCC countries. The GCC should have made that abundantly clear as otherwise they would have been legitimate targets.

But my concern is that only Iran is making that statement, that some attacks on Iran have been initiated from GCC states. There is no evidence of this at all. What would the GCC states gain by allowing the US to use the bases in GCC countries to attack Iran and thus invite Iranian attack back on GCC countries? Moreover, GCC countries have repeatedly stated that US bases in their countries are NOT being used to attack Iran and are only used to defend against attacks by Iran (shooting down drones and missiles etc.).
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Why do you keep posting these lies?
The USAF is no longer hiding the fact that it is launching attacks from the GCC, it is openly flying freely through GCC airspace with its transponders on, in a manner visible even to civilians.
Furthermore, it is even deploying land based aircraft like the F-15E to bomb Iran.
These aircraft cannot take off from aircraft carriers.
And the CENTCOM has itself released videos showing missiles being fired at Iran from within Kuwaiti territory.
U.S. media outlets themselves have reported that ballistic missiles were also launched from Bahrain toward Iran.
Neither the U.S. nor the GCC has any intention of hiding this anymore.
 
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