Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Hezbollah publishes

Scenes from the targeting of the Yodefat Military Industries company southeast of the occupied city of Acre.

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VCheng said:
May I suggest calling it a "sense of great relief" rather than a celebration, if this news is true?

If so, then I can share this sentiment.
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I doubt it. I think hes still alive - probably tucking into a cheeseburger and fries sitting in McDonald’s. Imagine - he continues wars coz if he didnt - he would be put on trial. World havoc as long as he doesnt have to face the courts
 
Yasser76 said:
Yeah, I also guess they need to keep many stationed around the world for day to day ops, especially in Pacific.
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...precisely.

People might be under the illusion that their (USAF) entire fleet might be in the US.

They are all over the Globe.

Italy, Germany, Korea, Japan, Taiwan... Hell some tiny Islands in the middle of no where.

If the US were to move their entire fleet from some of those locations...

S. Korea might become lunch for Kim and Taiwan might become histoy by dinner time.
 
The main issue is now, what's the end?



The BM do very little damage, a hundred people being injured a day is nothing and Tehran and Iran has a large population and can sustain daily airstrikes indefinitely, with the way it's going now all that either side is doing is making civilian life difficult but not enough to cause any internal civil strife. Unless things escalate things can stay like for years which is unlikely to happen as costs ramp up for Trump.



What's the options available? Israel uses nuclear weapons? Would be the end of them. Iran invades some gulf countries? The military is basically a militia, will be destroyed by a much more advanced force with air support.

And that's basically it, Israel doesn't have the numbers for any invasion, Iran doesn't have the quality and the Americans won't be willing to risk substantial losses.


The only option is a ceasefire and back to this happening again in 6 months. Both sides can take the punishment that they are giving each other right now for a long time, the Jews are deluded into believing this is there land and they will happily die there, the Iranians are rightfully pissed and have a large populous so despite Israel hitting hard regularly, the people there are used to some form of suffering and struggle so as shit as it must be they will push on.

Even if I understood the Israeli side, any outside observer can see there is no victory here. For Iran, survival is victory, a costly one but they are a strong people.

Either way another stupid war started by idiots trying to change a country that has to many of its own issues.
 
Mav3rick said:
There should absolutely be NO attacks on Iran from US bases in GCC countries. The GCC should have made that abundantly clear as otherwise they would have been legitimate targets.

But my concern is that only Iran is making that statement, that some attacks on Iran have been initiated from GCC states. There is no evidence of this at all. What would the GCC states gain by allowing the US to use the bases in GCC countries to attack Iran and thus invite Iranian attack back on GCC countries? Moreover, GCC countries have repeatedly stated that US bases in their countries are NOT being used to attack Iran and are only used to defend against attacks by Iran (shooting down drones and missiles etc.).
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Why do you keep posting these lies?
The USAF is no longer hiding the fact that it is launching attacks from the GCC, it is openly flying freely through GCC airspace with its transponders on, in a manner visible even to civilians.
Furthermore, it is even deploying land based aircraft like the F-15E to bomb Iran.
These aircraft cannot take off from aircraft carriers.
And the CENTCOM has itself released videos showing missiles being fired at Iran from within Kuwaiti territory.
U.S. media outlets themselves have reported that ballistic missiles were also launched from Bahrain toward Iran.
Neither the U.S. nor the GCC has any intention of hiding this anymore.
 
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Musings said:
I doubt it. I think hes still alive - probably tucking into a cheeseburger and fries sitting in McDonald’s. Imagine - he continues wars coz if he didnt - he would be put on trial. World havoc as long as he doesnt have to face the courts
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Sadly, this war is now bigger than the top leaderships of both sides - Iran has carried out with determination after the senior Ayatollah the same policies, and similarly Israel is likely to see this war to its logical conclusion for one side or the other, even if its entire cabinet is killed.

This seems to be a situation of "conquer or perish" at this point in time, which is regrettable.
 
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