Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Hamartia Antidote said:
Can we have some sort of summary page each day instead of wading through the usual:
"Israel/US blew up this, Iran blew up that" <- yes we know things like that happen

This thread has turned into the meme of the radio announcer describing a tennis match. "John backhands the volley, James responds with a forehand, a two handed forehand too!!...Wow!"
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Not a bad idea. There should be a separate US-Israel-Iran war daily summary thread.
 
Watandar said:
Chamran ? Never heard of him till now. Who was he ?
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His credentials were of next level!This gen has already fallen in love with Larijani as far as SM is concerned. If Chamran was alive today, Who knows what would have happened.

Dr. Mostafa Chamran (1932–1981) was a prominent Iranian scientist, politician, and guerrilla commander who served as Iran's first defense minister after the 1979 Revolution. Educated at UC Berkeley and a former researcher, he left a promising academic career to lead paramilitaries in Lebanon and later Iran, where he was martyred during the Iran-Iraq War.

Key Aspects of Dr. Chamran's Life:
  • Education and Scientific Background: Chamran obtained a PhD in plasma physics and electrical engineering from the University of California, Berkeley (often referenced as a prestigious US institution).
  • Guerrilla Warfare Training: He received specialized military training in Egypt and later worked with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and helped found the Amal Movement in Lebanon.
  • Post-Revolution Iran: Following the 1979 Revolution, he was appointed Defense Minister (September 1979 – 1980) and was elected as a Tehran representative to the Iranian Parliament.
  • Iran-Iraq War: During the Iraq-imposed war, he led volunteer forces (Paramilitary units) and was a key commander before being killed on June 20, 1981, in Dehlavieh, earning him the title "Martyr" (Shaheed) and "proud commander of Islam" by Imam Khomeini.
 
dbc said:
Current circumstances considered I can unequivocally dispute that assertion. In case you forgotten Iran was booted out of Syria. The Houthis are just making noises at this time they are yet to lift a finger in defense of their benefactors.
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What are you talking about, they attacked several times only red sea port of the entity...drones could make headache for anyone who wants to go through Suez...

That is great psychological background to Iranian National Doctrine...Houthis are priceless as Iranian allies, and cost almost nothing...

New Hezbollah is defeat at their place for zio-empire...
 
wangdefa said:
I believe this is the seventh Middle East war. I have seen many Iranians living overseas choose to return to Iran to support their country. Although Iran's retaliatory actions have recently decreased, I am not clear about the internal reasons. However, I hope that the surrender faction within Iran does not gain momentum. This is a war, and there is also a battle of public opinion. I hope the Iranian government does not succumb to pressure, and those in the surrender faction should be promptly removed from the center of power.
The Chinese describe Iran as a Persian cat. When people debate whether it is a white cat or a black cat, please do not forget that being able to catch mice is an excellent cat. This is its instinctive reaction.
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Iran will face an even worse fate than a potential carpet bombing like Dresden should it surrender. And to prevent that, Iran should really mobilize its large population, its allies in Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon and elsewhere to take the war to the borders of Israel as it had existed by late 2024.
A war of attrition may or may not be viable of Iran. Those who attacked it have factored in short-medium term casualties and economic losses for long term gains except they have probably missed the human elements like the unpredictable large populations spread in the region.
 
dbc said:
that isn't what I said. I said, and I repeat that the video is fake and I didn't ever say an F-35 wasn't hit. You clutch on to that straw, hitting that F-35 remains the only bright spot in a rather gloomy future for Iran. That too after the US has been flying over your head non-stop since late February. We have 600 more F-35's and thousands of other assets a single damaged F-35 is hardly going to change the outcome.
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I agree, it only means they will
Need to fly higher. They don’t have complete aerial superiority. The fighter was allegedly taken down by mobile IR weapons system meaning , the lower level stike capability is not open to drones or low flying aircraft.

Strategically this results in
- Higher cost of operations as planes have to fly high with full weapons load meaning, aerial refueling and complicated logistics.
- Lower tempo as they need to operate with maned aircraft or HALE drone assets
- they can’t bring in larger bombers as the airspace is not open and it highly probable that Iran is still hiding some s-300 mpu systems
 
I was listening to the War Nerd podcast the other day and they had on Sunni Bahraini--Canadian guest speaker. He made a few points about Bahrain's role in all of this.

  • The ruling party has fast-tracked citizenship of Egyptians, Jordanians, Yemenis, and Pakistan (Sunnis) to help suppress the Shia majority.
  • There is a racial hierarchy in Bahrain where Pakistanis are on the lower end of the pole in the security forces. The top jobs are for the other Arabs
  • Manana has this street full of bars (typical where Westerners like to go and relax ie Bangkok, Okinawa, Seoul etc) which is full of South-Asian S*x workers, and underage Bahraini girls (ages 13-16) go and befriend American military members ages 23-25 and start physical relationships. The parents of these girls are embarrassed and ashamed, and out of shame do not bring this up, even if they did, the service-member will moved out of the country.
  • Bahrain arrested one of their citizen for criticizing Israel at a conference in Beirut and on his return to Bahrain arrested him for insulting an ally.
  • Bahrain is very close to Israel like UAE. Both are the top countries in the gulf fully entrenched in the "Abraham Accords."
  • Ruling party is heavily depended on the bridge that connects to Saudi Arabia for all its needs now since the SoH is shut down. The Highway is their lifeline.
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Meengla said:
Iran will face an even worse fate than a potential carpet bombing like Dresden should it surrender. And to prevent that, Iran should really mobilize its large population, its allies in Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon and elsewhere to take the war to the borders of Israel as it had existed by late 2024.
A war of attrition may or may not be viable of Iran. Those who attacked it have factored in short-medium term casualties and economic losses for long term gains except they have probably missed the human elements like the unpredictable large populations spread in the region.
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Without any type of Air Support or Air defence a large scale mobilization of ground forces will lead to nothing but slaughter. A war of attrition and blockage is the most viable option for Iran.
 
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If you look at how reacted to the attack on its gas infrastructure, then how does trump think that Iran will react to the loss of Kharg Island ?!?!?!?!?

Trump is trying to escalate to de-escalate, but it is now finding that Iran is multiplying the escalation ladder in response.

Iran may well take out all the refineries and ports of the GCC if it loses access to its refineries and ports, Iran has shown it is prepared to escalate that far.
 
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Khanviletey said:
I agree, it only means they will
Need to fly higher. They don’t have complete aerial superiority. The fighter was allegedly taken down by mobile IR weapons system meaning , the lower level stike capability is not open to drones or low flying aircraft.

Strategically this results in
- Higher cost of operations as planes have to fly high with full weapons load meaning, aerial refueling and complicated logistics.
- Lower tempo as they need to operate with maned aircraft or HALE drone assets
- they can’t bring in larger bombers as the airspace is not open and it highly probable that Iran is still hiding some s-300 mpu systems
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Your whole analysis is a bit doomed from the start.

You can’t “fly higher” when you are expending your most valuable stand off munitions that have long production times.

Within a week or two you will have to resort more and more to normal bombs and JDAMs, which will require fighter jets to get closer and lower (relative to standoff not lower like hugging the ground).

If the shields of Israel and Saudi Arabia also crack in next 1-2 weeks then the campaign to hit aerial tankers on the ground will go high intensity which will impact sortie rates as all these fighter jets require mid air fueling, as carrying external fuel tanks gives marginal range increase at expense of higher RCS for ambush attacks by hidden AD teams.
 
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