Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Jugantor]

What are you doing then to address your ignorance?

Never underestimate the US. When you have a President like the one we currently have, woe be upon those who do.

Never overestimate the US especially with the orange orangutan in charge.

 

[Immortals]

There have been no missile attacks on Israel today. That's not a good sign.

This is false. There has been 3 waves since midnight Israeli time and 1 wave to South Lebanon.

Do not spread misinformation.

There has been a lull of 10 hours since the last one. This is likely due to Yazd, Isfahan, and other missile bases being targeted heavily in last 48 hours and Iran taking extra precaution to ensure safety before resuming.

In meantime attacks have focused on the Middle East countries.

 

[KingQamaR]

Oil Market manipulation correction tomorrow when it opens in the morning

 

[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

This is false. There has been 3 waves since midnight Israeli time and 1 wave to South Lebanon.

Do not spread misinformation.

There has been a lull of 10 hours since the last one. This is likely due to Yazd, Isfahan, and other missile bases being targeted heavily in last 48 hours and Iran taking extra precaution to ensure safety before resuming.

In meantime attacks have focused on the Middle East countries.

Where are the videos/reports of these attacks? I didn't see them posted here.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

So, they started bombing Iran, but now they want to go back to "negotiations" and demand the reduction of missiles' reach and the handover of the HEU?

This can only mean:

1. "Israel" is short of interceptors;
2. The partial closure of the Strait of Hormuz is causing economic turmoil.

Miliekowsky is the primary mover... the deal making shyster from New York swings in the dark for zion.
Mileikowsky wants war, he gets war... he wants to expand, he gets it expanded. Chabadniks are in for messianic rule... their ultimate aim, drag Russia in along with Iran. That will mimic the interpretation enough to call it done... as with rest... the messianic state of zion.

 

[Jango]

It's such poor logic.

Having a missile force is smart, no one can doubt that after this war, but having a capable defensive air force is also important. It allows their missile launch pads to operate safely under air cover, and allows the to constantly contest air space. The air force doesn't have to meet parity, it just has to be good enough to be a threat.

Precisely...a credible AD deterrent is a must have in modern times, ceding your airspace is a death sentence.

The Ukraine war is a perfect example where Russia continues to have a superior air force, but because the Ukrainians had a smaller but competently staffed and stocked air force, the Ukrainians were able to keep the Russians at bay long enough to prove to the Europeans that Ukraine was worth aiding and wasn't going to get steamrolled.

Well you can't really compare both here...Ukraine has had the might of the Western world behind it.

 

[Cash gk]

Fair enough. Appears I did.

I can only speak to my own immediate area. There are other Americans here as well as expats living here who are better qualified to speak about their locales. @VCheng already did.

The guy you mentioned in your conversation I kept him in my ignore list for a long time lol

 

[Goenitz]

That would be ideal but how can you trust two bastards that attacked twice by the back when you were close to a deal.

International forces' presence in Gulf. Like of UN but under Russian and Chinese forces.
Just keep one thing in mind, no one in future will allow Iran to stop Harmuz again. China, Japan, Russia, EU, etc will either stop the US/Israel from attacking or stop Iran from blocking Harmuz.

Iran cannot play this card forever and again easily. So, Iran should demand the cessation of sanctions and develop itself to the fullest.

Edit: Just keep in mind, no major power would allow any country to block the oil corridors.
It is a good omen that Trump has goofed up by making China angry (Tariff issue) and the EU/Canada over the Greenland issue.

 

[onlinpunit]

Usa Israel have striked Iran 16000 times during this war. Imagine the destruction cause. Iran has no choice but to negotiate a ceasefire. What Iran needs is gurantees from Russia China Pakistan Turkey that Usa Israel will not attack again, sanctions must be removed, Iran will not build the nukes, will not strike GCC or Israel. But yes i agree ceasefire must not be agreed without gurantees or else Usa Israel will attack again. A joint military base with China and Russia must also be agreed.

How about withdrawl of suport to hizbollah, Hamas and Hauthis ? In my opinion GCC and Israel will insist on this.as well..

 

[ShapurII]

How about withdrawl of suport to hizbollah, Hamas and Hauthis ? In my opinion GCC and Israel will insist on this.as well..

They are not in a position to insist on anything at this point of the war.

 

[Falcon29]

One early warning alert for Dimona city/southern Negev area

 

[onlinpunit]

They are not in a position to insist on anything at this point of the war.

So in case of negotiations what will be the common ground ?

 

[RescueRanger]

STOP SHARING ENEMY Propaganda.
1. This image is from 2023


2. No negotiations have taken place between Islamabad, Israel and Iran - Pakistan doesn't recognize Israel.


Members are strongly requested not to share FAKE News, misinformation or propaganda.

 

[lightning f57]

Trumpy is a lying bastard

Diplomatically and from the war perspective Iran is in a strong position.

For any real ceasefire there needs to be guarantees from other major powers to help Iran, talks should include Russia and China. Otherwise trumpy will lie his way into bombing Iran again.

If im Iran, I would make this very costly economic and politically for the US, that means Hormuz staying shut to the epstein coalition and continual bombardment of US, Israel bases.

Deterrence has to be established, whatever the cost unfortunately otherwise 6 months later he will go again.