Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

Well, everyone forgot about them.. only Pakistan for now on the social media, even in the GCC.

Social media ? Since when is social media credible ?

Pakistan offered to "mediate" - just as Turkey, Egypt and other friendly countries did.

 

[Foinikas]

Nope, you got it wrong then.

The Leadership (Rahbari) in Iran has always referred to the Supreme Leader. He's the one that makes the final decision. Then you have Supreme National Security Council which consists of the President, the Head of Parliament, people appointed by the Supreme Leader and people appointed by the President.

A secretary or an assistant is not part of the decision making body in Iran.

Bro,you're just hiding behind your finger now. They're taking out your high-ranking officials and your Statesmen and you're telling me "no,it's just the Supreme Leader that we lost,so
it's all good".

 

[Aggregate]

Hezbollah not going easy on israel .. there have been multiple rocket attack alerts at a time, almost every 5 minutes .. since several hours now.

They destroyed 4 tanks earlier and they must be decimating israel's border areas on their own.

 

[2ndstrike]

Their reasoning was that building an air force was out of the reach for them. A jet fighter has too many hi-tech components that is impossible to master for Iran without foreign help. And the US would still gain air superiority anyway. So, they decided to bet their money on missiles.

I have always been against that tactic, but it is what it is.

Even if Iran has the Su35 and Su57, it would not have a chance against stealthy F35 F22. It's useless to build a non stealthy airforce and eventually lose it all in one round of fighting. When you don't have the means of delivering ordances to your enemies via jets, your best option is to have the ordances delivered to your enemies via drones and ballistics missiles. As for air defence, we can see that long range air defence was never meant to be the sole and main weapon to fight against a first world air force like Israel, let alone a combined Israel and U.S. With the invention of cheap drones and stand off weapons, even if you can overcome electronic warfare jamming, your air defence will soak up all the rounds just to engage those munitions coming at your radar before you have a chance to aim at the jets. Air defence can only be effectively employed in Iran as part of an ambush with the air defence unit detecting and guiding the missiles with passive EO IRST. I think this passive detection amd ambush still works for air defence but you need thousands of these SHORAD like the Russian sosna to work.

 

[TallGuy]

last two launches are of Solid Fuel not the K2 or K4, my guess is they are sijjeel two stage Solid fuel Ballistic missiles

 

[ShapurII]

Bro,you're just hiding behind your finger now. They're taking out your high-ranking officials and your Statesmen and you're telling me "no,it's just the Supreme Leader that we lost,so
it's all good".

I never said we lost just the Supreme Leader, where did I say that? lol Are you twisting my words now?

Is that the best you could come up with? If yes, I think this discussion is over.

 

[Foinikas]

I never said we lost just the Supreme Leader, where did I say that? lol Are you twisting my words now?

Is that the best you could come up with? If yes, I think this discussion is over.

But you're trying to pass it off as if it's no big deal you lost all these guys,because there's always someone else taking their place

 

[Kyussis]

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"by calling it the "Iran war" instead of the war on Iran, they are attributing the calamity to Iran while not implicating U.S and Israel for starting the war!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Social media ? Since when is social media credible ?

Pakistan offered to "mediate" - just as Turkey, Egypt and other friendly countries did.

But bro', it has to be true, right? I mean, it's on social media. How can it be wrong?

 

[PakSword]

Social media ? Since when is social media credible ?

Pakistan offered to "mediate" - just as Turkey, Egypt and other friendly countries did.

I follow a lot of local accounts as I have spent time in almost every GCC country (except Bahrain).

The local sentiment is something else. Whether we have only offered or played a big part, perception among the general public is that it's Pakistan that's leading the initiative and trying to bring all the parties to the negotiation table. I colleague of mine (Egyptian) himself is praising Pakistan for the past couple of days. I just smile in return.

Baqi I agree with you on Turkey and Egypt playing an equal role.

 

[Mero]

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Some flaws in assessment but yes American LNG sector is booming.

It is why I specifically said Arab oil and gas should only be taken offline until the 2026 elections in November. To have oil and gas fully return by 2027, so Iran defeats the US long term projects.

 

[ShapurII]

But you're trying to pass it off as if it's no big deal you lost all these guys,because there's always someone else taking their place

But isn't that true? Do you think a military commander is irreplaceable in war?

I mean if this war has demonstrated anything, it is that you can kill as many high profile people as you can, but if the system remains solid and stable after that, it was all in vain.

To be honest with you, and I am saying it purely based on facts, the US is already starting to regret many of these killings. They are now replaced by more anti-American/anti-Israel people and the US knows much less about them. In a sense, they replaced people they knew and could reach a deal with with people they don't know. How is that a good thing for them if they can't overthrow the regime in the end?

 

[Shags101]

But you're trying to pass it off as if it's no big deal you lost all these guys,because there's always someone else taking their place

well to be fair and sorry for the loss of Iranian leaders but it seems the guys who have taken over let’s assume younger generation are doing a bang up job at hitting back not flinching not asking not hoisting the white flag imagine these guys aren’t going to be playing ball like how the past Iranian leadership had in the past what’s to come isn’t going to be an Iran that’s going to be humbled but an Iran that’s going to want payback I’m assuming much of it will be directed at Israeli targets worldwide and let’s just put this on a safe bet I’m thinking Iran who hasn’t been developing a nuclear weapon for the past 20 plus years is going to actually build one fairly quickly in the shadows

 

[Asif]

They learned nothing from Lawrence of Arabia. This time it will Kushner of Arabia.

well Lawrence of Arabia gave them their kingdom and made the boudu leaders of the muslim ummah. internally, they must be regarding him very highly. It is us, the common independnt person, who sees it otherwise

 

[Shakehands]

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Pajeeeets ans youthiass on sucide watch

Wow, Pakistan just became No. 1 overnight
Gold rivers loading, $500B billion delivery from America probably arriving via Amazon Prime by the weekend ,inflation & terrorism both ragequit.Poverty? Never heard of her.All thanks to one tweet.
marvel multiverse patwari logic.
Let’s stick to topic thank you.