Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Master Chief]

Right now, we have crazy leadership with big egos on all sides

I struggle with this false equivalence that is routinely deployed.

Tehran is trying to assure its very survival. It is not a matter of "ego" for them, rather simple existence as a political entity.

The only true ego deployed here is a glorified day trader who happens to be squatting in Washington DC.

 

[Immortals]

I'd be interested in seeing his CV in nuclear physics.

Here is just one source to back up my claims. Please read DRZ begins shrinking in 1-2 hours, by 7 hours factor reduction of 10, by 49 hours likely another 10 factor reduction:

Radiation Triage, Treat, and Transport System (RTR) after a Nuclear Detonation: Venues for the Medical Response - Radiation Emergency Medical Management

remm.hhs.gov

I’ll await to see your sources and @dbc

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

that gotta be the total weight the warhead might be 2 tons or 3 tons, thoughts

I agree. A 40 ton warhead? Not likely.

I'd believe more like 2500 lbs or so (1100 +/- kg).

 

[RescueRanger]

• Gripen9 please discuss topic - not the conduct or opinion of other members - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

[hasn2009]

3 hours old tweet.

Grok:

• No credible reports exist of any Iranian missile named “Al-Qari’ah” (or Arabic equivalents like القارعة). Searches across news, defense analyses, and recent conflict updates turn up nothing from IRGC announcements, Iranian state media (e.g., Fars, Tasnim), or international outlets. The name appears only in Quran recitations or unrelated posts—not tied to any weapon.
• 40-ton weight is unrealistic for Iran's known arsenal. Iran's heaviest operational ballistic missiles, like the Khorramshahr-4 (also called Kheibar or similar variants), have a total launch weight estimated at 20–30 tons (not 40), with a ~2,000 km range and heavy warheads of 1,500–2,000 kg (1.5–2 tons). Iran has emphasized "super-heavy" or large-warhead missiles in recent "True Promise" operation waves, but nothing approaches a 40-ton missile. A true 40-ton system would be ICBM-class (like Russia's Sarmat), requiring massive infrastructure Iran doesn't openly field for such a weapon.

 

[Shags101]

I agree. A 40 ton warhead? Not likely.

I'd believe more like 2500 lbs or so (1100 +/- kg).

Here’s a hint the guy who posted it is on ignore maybe not the most reliable source

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Here’s a hint the guy who posted it is on ignore maybe not the most reliable source

It seems to be a common theme throughout this thread.

 

[lightning f57]

I'm sure there is an unlimited supply of clean radiation free oxygen, water and food for the cave complex crew to shelter in place in their advanced nuclear shielding hazmat suits each costing about 10,000 USD like the RST Demron Suit.

If the US uses nukes again, it may as well forget about nonproliferation. It sets an international precedent and will open a pandoros box where other states could use nukes to end conflicts, Russia case in point. The irony of it as well, trumpy using nukes to stop imaginary Iranian nukes.

 

[Abdul q]

Iran is the Super Mario

 

[Shags101]

It seems to be a common theme throughout this thread.

not going to lie that’s why i tend to filter out the extremes on either side if I only had button to ignore a couple of moderators this thread would be perfect

 

[Shags101]

View attachment 188513Iran is the Super Mario

Off topic but I think the Japanese were being a little racist with the game Mario brothers but I guess sumo brothers wouldn’t have sounded right

 

[Flotilla]

You can't seriously believe this to be true, do you?

Look closer at the photo. And then convince yourself a carrier is capable of a 90 degree turn like that.

Well, the only two facts are that the carrier did a 90 turnaround and a sailor has been killed. Can both facts be linked?.

Maybe something exploded in kitchens but, really, something is wrong when it operates far away from the coast and does this kind of radical maneouvers. CENTCOM shown pictures of USS Lincoln with Super Hornets over the deck carrying 5 external fuel pods!!!!.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

not going to lie that’s why i tend to filter out the extremes on either side if I only had button to ignore a couple of moderators this thread would be perfect

There's a reason why you can't ignore the moderators.

Then again, follow the forum rules and it's unlikely there will be a need for a moderator to follow you.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Well, the only two facts are that the carrier did a 90 turnaround and a sailor has been killed. Can both facts be linked?.

Maybe something exploded in kitchens but, really, something is wrong when it operates far away from the coast and does this kind of radical maneouvers. CENTCOM shown pictures of USS Lincoln with Super Hornets over the deck carrying 5 external fuel pods!!!!.

Carriers do NOT do 90 degree turns like that. That photo was literally a near-perfect right angle.

If you've ever seen footage of carriers going through evasive maneuvers during acceptance trials, you'll see that they aren't turning 90 degrees like that. They just aren't capable.

 

[Immortals]

Under 1500+ feet of granite btw


For those curious here is the documented wave history of Iran firing to Israel the past several days

Sunday: around 10 waves
Monday: 5 waves
Tuesday: 16 waves
Wednesday: 8 waves
Thursday: 10/11 waves

Some waves carrying 1 missile, some waves carry 2-3. I have seen as high as 5, but that is rare and unconfirmed

Assuming just 1 missile per wave - 50 missiles in 5 days and 1.5 missile per wave puts you around 75 missiles

Assuming a conservative 1-2 interceptors per missile (non-Iron dome) then Israel expended 50 to 150 interceptors in last 5 days.

In 10 days (next Trump “deadline”), if the fire rate continues, Israel may have expended another 300 interceptors (non Iron dome). Assuming it even has that much left.