Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Right now, we have crazy leadership with big egos on all sides
I struggle with this false equivalence that is routinely deployed.

Tehran is trying to assure its very survival. It is not a matter of "ego" for them, rather simple existence as a political entity.

The only true ego deployed here is a glorified day trader who happens to be squatting in Washington DC.
 
  • Gripen9 please discuss topic - not the conduct or opinion of other members - everyone is entitled to their opinion.
 

3 hours old tweet.

Grok:
  • No credible reports exist of any Iranian missile named “Al-Qari’ah” (or Arabic equivalents like القارعة). Searches across news, defense analyses, and recent conflict updates turn up nothing from IRGC announcements, Iranian state media (e.g., Fars, Tasnim), or international outlets. The name appears only in Quran recitations or unrelated posts—not tied to any weapon.
  • 40-ton weight is unrealistic for Iran's known arsenal. Iran's heaviest operational ballistic missiles, like the Khorramshahr-4 (also called Kheibar or similar variants), have a total launch weight estimated at 20–30 tons (not 40), with a ~2,000 km range and heavy warheads of 1,500–2,000 kg (1.5–2 tons). Iran has emphasized "super-heavy" or large-warhead missiles in recent "True Promise" operation waves, but nothing approaches a 40-ton missile. A true 40-ton system would be ICBM-class (like Russia's Sarmat), requiring massive infrastructure Iran doesn't openly field for such a weapon.
 
I'm sure there is an unlimited supply of clean radiation free oxygen, water and food for the cave complex crew to shelter in place in their advanced nuclear shielding hazmat suits each costing about 10,000 USD like the RST Demron Suit.
If the US uses nukes again, it may as well forget about nonproliferation. It sets an international precedent and will open a pandoros box where other states could use nukes to end conflicts, Russia case in point. The irony of it as well, trumpy using nukes to stop imaginary Iranian nukes.
 
It seems to be a common theme throughout this thread.
not going to lie that’s why i tend to filter out the extremes on either side if I only had button to ignore a couple of moderators this thread would be perfect 😍
 
You can't seriously believe this to be true, do you?

Look closer at the photo. And then convince yourself a carrier is capable of a 90 degree turn like that.
Well, the only two facts are that the carrier did a 90 turnaround and a sailor has been killed. Can both facts be linked?.

Maybe something exploded in kitchens but, really, something is wrong when it operates far away from the coast and does this kind of radical maneouvers. CENTCOM shown pictures of USS Lincoln with Super Hornets over the deck carrying 5 external fuel pods!!!!.
 
not going to lie that’s why i tend to filter out the extremes on either side if I only had button to ignore a couple of moderators this thread would be perfect 😍
There's a reason why you can't ignore the moderators.

Then again, follow the forum rules and it's unlikely there will be a need for a moderator to follow you.
 
Well, the only two facts are that the carrier did a 90 turnaround and a sailor has been killed. Can both facts be linked?.

Maybe something exploded in kitchens but, really, something is wrong when it operates far away from the coast and does this kind of radical maneouvers. CENTCOM shown pictures of USS Lincoln with Super Hornets over the deck carrying 5 external fuel pods!!!!.
Carriers do NOT do 90 degree turns like that. That photo was literally a near-perfect right angle.

If you've ever seen footage of carriers going through evasive maneuvers during acceptance trials, you'll see that they aren't turning 90 degrees like that. They just aren't capable.
 

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