Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Yeah, a captured pilot or two in case of F-15E will be a disaster for Trump and another Iranian bargaining chip.

Honestly at this rate, apart from using Nukes, hard to see any form of American win, even if this goes on for 6 months....
You guys are throwing about tossing nukes as if this is like a normal thing. I know it was started by western media sources to mentally prepare (non-shock) therapy. Do you understand the amount of suffering for people living there it will cost??
 
yes
but , when f15 was downed all units should have been placed at high alerts becasue they should know by now thet us would conduct CSAR
I assume they probably were, since one of the helicopters seems to have either been shot down or at least come under attack (I think the latest information is that the refueler and one helicopter went back into Iraqi airspace by now, I saw someone posted here about debris from a second helicopter, not sure if verified), but even still, if you're limited to visual range because of MANPADs usage in an area that seems riddled with hills and mountains from the footage we've seen, your windows to locate and fire upon these assets is going to be like 30 seconds.
 
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Iran just now claiming they have also downed a US Black Hawk UH-60 helicopter that was trying to search for the downed US pilot from yesterday


I was wondering how C130 + Helicopters conducting SAR could operate so freely in Iran. Lets see if this was indeed shot down..
 
Would be an epic disaster if they managed to shoot down the refueller too. Two jets, a heli and a refueller is a crazy snow ball. I hope they knock out a few more dominos and capture some of the crew alive to plaster all over TV.

Gonna be a massive PR win.
 
I wonder if it would get to the point that it runs out of flare cartridges.
All I know is that this C-130 should not leave our air space safely or it's a fail for us.

It’s very rural iran. Ruled mostly by tribes.

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If Iranian air defenses were more like Ukraine or even 50% of Ukraine all these planes involved in rescue ops would also be shot down.
 
The mission to extract it would demand an airlift of hundreds or even thousands of troops specially trained to remove nuclear material from behind enemy lines, along with heavy equipment, all while operating under Iranian fire, former defense officials told the Post.

So the funny thing is I I said this a couple of days you don’t need an engineering degree to know that if they they were to do this they would need thousands of troops to do this task and weeks to get to it if they can risksof being hit out in the open would be tremendous and than all of these troops would need to wear those biohazard suits in what I can assume is extreme scorching heat and all the while fight off ambushes missile and artillery attacks I guess we know why the general left
 
Clashes between the Revolutionary Guard and the US Army in Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad after the US Army carried out airborne landing operations, which led to casualties among US forces and failure to rescue the pilots

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If Iranian air defenses were more like Ukraine or even 50% of Ukraine all these planes involved in rescue ops would also be shot down.

It's still no excuse for us that we cannot get even close to the crash site with MANPADs.
This has been an ongoing situation for hours already.
 

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