Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

Another point of Trump being removed from office is if Iran also blocks the southern Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, especially the Bab el-Mandeb Strait through its Houthi proxy forces.

Imagine the catastrophic effect this will have on the entire world.

I agree that Irán alone cannot fire Trump from his position. But Congress could do it Irán escalates a bit more.

This idea you cited it is also very good. And it is not necessary to be something traumatic or exposed like a Iranian victory.

Maybe Irán can deal with someone of the US Congress and in exchange of Trump´s removal sign a treaty directly with the Congress. Someone more pragmatical should replace Trump´s. Rubio was against this war and his tone has been much less bombastic than Trump´s or Mad Pete´s ones.

But signing a deal it is a trap. Trump will break it with the support of Netanyahu.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Ali_Baba]

The quickest way for this to come to an end, would be regime change in the USA. I can't see Iran want to negotiated with Trump anymore.

 

[ShapurII]

Again, a problem of this war is Iran never invested in a expensive - but critically important weapons platform that could reliably hit HVT targets of Israel.

These rumored “super” weapons that IRGC liked to brag about haven’t materialized.

Iran can only rely on slow drones or BMs with varying degrees of accuracy for this job. However, if they had invested in either a true HGV hypersonic or some type of supersonic suicide drone with a very low observable cross section, that while not built in thousands was built in a couple hundred, it could reliably strike more economic assets of Israel.

The issue for Iran is Israel is 2000KM and it doesn’t have the ability to fly to Syria and lob ALBM at Israel like IAF can do to Iran.

On top of that, the issue is that Iran stopped investing in science and technology after Ahmadinejad left the office. Rohani was a disaster for Iran. He reduced Iran's R&D budget and focused on patents, instead of publishing research. A policy that not only hurt Iran's academic research, but did not have the intended effect for patents in Iran either.

So, yes, we do have a technology problem. But our shortcomings aside, we have never fired 10-20 missiles at a single target in this war. Maybe we have, but I have never seen that in the videos on the internet. It's almost like we want to damage HVTs, but not destroy them in a meaningful way.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Still wrong

So @Fatman17 - what is the right answer ?

 

[Immortals]

On top of that, the issue is that Iran stopped investing in science and technology after Ahmadinejad left the office. Rohani was a disaster for Iran. He reduced Iran's R&D budget and focused on patents, instead of publishing research. A policy that not only hurt Iran's academic research, but did not have the intended effect for patents in Iran either.

So, yes, we do have a technology problem. But our shortcomings aside, we have never fired 10-20 missiles at a single target in this war. Maybe we have, but I have never seen that in the videos on the internet. It's almost like we want to damage HVTs, but not destroy them in a meaningful way.

The next 24 to 48 hours will show us is if IRGC and by extension Mojtaba and the remaining factions will allow the use of greater force against Israeli energy infrastructure.

This would require the use of Fatah 1 and 2 and Basir and Nasrallah missile and anything else Iran has hidden up its sleeve.

 

[ShapurII]

I agree that Irán alone cannot fire Trump from his position. But Congress could do it Irán escalates a bit more.

This idea you cited it is also very good. And it is not necessary to be something traumatic or exposed like a Iranian victory.

Maybe Irán can deal with someone of the US Congress and in exchange of Trump´s removal sign a treaty directly with the Congress. Someone more pragmatical should replace Trump´s. Rubio was against this war and his tone has been much less bombastic than Trump´s or Mad Pete´s ones.

But signing a deal it is a trap. Trump will break it with the support of Netanyahu.

The Republicans control both the US Senate and the Congress.

They will not go against Trump. Trump currently is the face of the Republican Party.

 

[D. John Trump]

You are right that many pipelines will be built to bypass the SoH but pipelines are vulnerable and fragile. They can be disrupted at thousands of points. So it's not a silver bullet for GCC

Pipeline can be repaired quickly.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Watandar]

Pipeline can be repaired quickly.

And another hole can be punched in it again just as quickly. It's hard to guard pipelines extending thousands of miles. New tech can also be developed to attack pipelines under ground.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Alex]

Not trying to be that guy and honestly I don’t know what is in that picture but could be Iranians who were fighting there attempting to destroy those aircraft or secure them whatever story we may believe unless Americans show pictures or videos them destroying the aircraft(I have been at work so I honestly don’t know if there is video)

Not a fat chance of Americans doing it. They have never done that in the past. They leave such matters to propaganda arms.

 

[Bratva]

The next 24 to 48 hours will show us is if IRGC and by extension Mojtaba and the remaining factions will allow the use of greater force against Israeli energy infrastructure.

This would require the use of Fatah 1 and 2 and Basir and Nasrallah missile and anything else Iran has hidden up its sleeve.

If Iran doesn't accept ceasefire, are you/general population mentally ready for infrastructure and economical collapse? and widespread civil disobedience/unrest that follows? Which will bring the regime down ultimately.

 

[Bratva]

USA/Israel going to destroy Iranian infra. Iran will in turn destroy GCC Infra. Both of them would suffer/their respective governments surely going to fall with what follows while USA/Israel would continue to function as a state. If Iran is not willing to accept diplomacy, doesn't have capability to destroy Israel/USA civilian infra. Is the regime willing to go down swinging?