Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

US has just struck kharg island oil facility. As 8am Est time deadline lapsed.

The deadline is 8PM EST.

 

[tsunset]

Reports says Iran told Pakistan that it will never negotiate with the US unless a regime change happens in the US

 

[maverick]

Just remember who is sitting back and enjoying all of this...... Israel and their leadership

 

[kobra]

Clock has run out for Iran, almost! very dark clouds coming for the region and ultimately whole world, one way or another.

 

[Starlord]

Telling Iran to give Trump what he wants to pause the inevitable for 45 days is betrayal, IMHO.

I don't think so, if you get 45 days you can use it for your own benefit as well, as @Persian Gulf said you can use that time to reopen underground missile bases, disperse your launchers and even develop more drones. 45 days can make difference in Iran's case, and who say that the 45 days ceasefire will not hold? you are assuming and i understand your skepticism due to backstab by Israel. But remember this time the war has not impacted just Israel and Iran, its raging in whole Region. Plus that 45 days cease-fire is not just about Iran opening SOH without proper guarantees. Like i said, Israel has achieved its goals already, they have destroyed Iran's capability enough that Iran poses no threat to them for at least 10-20 years, you need that time completely peaceful and sanction free to rebuild everything.
Rest if your country can think they are ok with infrastructure being bombed then nothing anyone else can do, in return most you can do is hit GCC and some Israeli targets but that's it.

 

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

I never thought a time will come that a country that is only trying to bring countries that are fighting to some sort of peace agreement will become a point of ridicule, some Iranians find the mediation so offensive that like its equal to betrayal, while we have IK brain dead supporters who just can't see pass their noses, if it was IK in office doing these mediation than they would added his name in Kalima Tayiba.

We owe Iran nothing for the word "betrayal" to even be brought in to the discussion. If anything, Iran's alliance with India and deals on Chahbahar port right at our border where Indian spy Khulbushan Yadev was found, or the proxies using poor Shias from Afghanistan and Pakistan was the original betrayal.

It's laughable here how Iranian members believe they are owed unconditional loyalty and that other countries cannot pursue their own alliances based on their interests and must bow to their regime which is massively unpopular even amongst Iranians themselves!

 

[Yasser76]

Reports says Iran told Pakistan that it will never negotiate with the US unless a regime change happens in the US

Source for these reports?

 

[KingQamaR]

Then answer this. Given the level of cooperation with North Korea and Russia, how come neither country has reciprocated by providing Iran with a working nuclear weapon? Or the assistance to complete a working nuclear weapon?

North Koreans are Chinese vassal state they not going to do anything with out a nod from Beijing . Russia will never wanted Muslim nuke Iran on its borders. Iranians were pretty dumb not knowing this and got played by Moscow bs.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

Pakistanis nukes are useless if they are not used to help others.

Says WHO??
It's PAKISTAN'S PROPERTY...
EVEN the Saudi's have DEFENCE PACT... NOT NUCLEAR PACT... PAKISTAN HAVE THE SAY WHEN TO USE THOSE WEAPONS NOT SAUDI'S OR ANYONE ELSE ....
AND PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE A GRUDGY EX.....

 

[hasssanali8998]

The deadline is 8PM EST.

or 5 am pst and 3:30 am tehran time

 

[Taimoor]

You idiot Pakistan never once from any official office said that they will bomb or send troops to attack Iran, jeez how dumb you guys are?

Go and bloody read the last few pages, you f@ujeet retards think like this. Your overlord FM Muneer signed it without having any authority and mandate, now the fanboys are out and about defending.

Why dont you bloody tell me, if there is full blown war between Iran and Saudi, which side you think your beloved FM (not Pakistan) will be, considering the whole narrative of this war and how this all started.

 

[r3alist]

This is going to the brink, but that is what very high level negotiations are like, both US and Iran know this is not worth the price now.

My guess is a very last minute deal.

The alternative is too horrific to imagine, and the thought of Saudi and PAF jets bombing Iran along with US and Israel truly sickens me to the pit of my stomach

Well said, every and any effort for diplomacy should be pursued, anything at all. Most the naysayers have no skin in the game, have chosen a side or just too coward to raise their hand up.

 

[ShapurII]

I don't think so, if you get 45 days you can use it for your own benefit as well, as @Persian Gulf said you can use that time to reopen underground missile bases, disperse your launchers and even develop more drones. 45 days can make difference in Iran's case, and who say that the 45 days ceasefire will not hold? you are assuming and i understand your skepticism due to backstab by Israel. But remember this time the war has not impacted just Israel and Iran, its raging in whole Region. Plus that 45 days cease-fire is not just about Iran opening SOH without proper guarantees. Like i said, Israel has achieved its goals already, they have destroyed Iran's capability enough that Iran poses no threat to them for at least 10-20 years, you need that time completely peaceful and sanction free to rebuild everything.
Rest if your country can think they are ok with infrastructure being bombed then nothing anyone else can do, in return most you can do is hit GCC and some Israeli targets but that's it.

No, 45 days can make 0 differences in Iran's case. I have already explained everything on that and I am not going to repeat myself. I will just refer you to those posts to see why it's not a good idea.

 

[Shags101]

Funny how you mentioned South Florida, when i was planning a trip to Destin FL, I was told by 3-4 people who have lived in pass Spring Hill - Brooksville that try not to stop between Spring hill and Panama city, give the a wrong turn could turn deadly.

I would say a big exaggeration but nothing in those cities or towns just boring as hell to be fair

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The Saudi's have put Pakistan in a position before when they asked Pakistan to take part in its war against Yemen, and the "defence" treaty puts in place that possibility against Iran aswell. MBS is a problem for both Saudi, and now Pakistan. Saudi needs an adult in the room urgently.

Again defense is not offense. Saudis cannot balance attacks from their soil against a third state and ask yet another to either help defend or go on offensive on its behalf.

That is just counterintuitive and simply wrong. Anyone pushing this agenda or assuming that this in any way mandates Pakistan is not helping Pakistan's cause.

In fact, once Saudis disavow and remove US offensive from its jurisdiction... any subsequent attacks against it can be called upon by Saudis to help defend the homeland. But not until...