Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[I*R*A]

After watching how the Iranian viewpoint about Pakistan is changing, I think Pakistan should come out of this mess. Let the parties fight it out themselves.

At the minimum Pakistan should do this for Pakistan.

 

[Majestic]

 

[Irfan Baloch]

for them its always about India. so insecure that even a single favourable story about Pakistan is unacceptable.

 

[SABRE]

Nah, that will never happen

When Bush visited, the SS didn't even allow him to be picked up by the designated car after landing in Islamabad. They just took him aside and placed him in a separate car they had brought along and parked on the side.

 

[SABRE]

This does not sound original. It's similar to what Shiv Aroor had said. I.e., "I have never criticised PM Modi or the BJP before ..." is what Aroor said. Tharoor definitely has critisied Modi and the BJP before, multiple times.

 

[onlinpunit]

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Good old Martin Neomoller

The writing on the wall got clear the day Assad was removed from Syria. Many of the posters who were in celebration mode that day are feeling the heat now !

 

[onlinpunit]

This does not sound original. It's similar to what Shiv Aroor had said. I.e., "I have never criticised PM Modi or the BJP before ..." is what Aroor said. Tharoor definitely has critisied Modi and the BJP before, multiple times.

Its a fake AI video.

 

[Waz]

Babe wake up new pahlavist cope has dropped
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100% an Indian account, you can tell by the post and the retarded pursuit of their Hindutva wet dreams.

 

[BHAN85]

He is just a corrupt trying to escape from jail through wars.

Bibi thinks only in own interests and don't giving a f about other people.

Like the average western politician in democracies .

Think instead who and why create those scenarios in USA to push those corrupt mor*ns to endless wars, like Netanyahu and Zelensky, same scheme of USA handling corrupt rulers for eternal warmongering.

 

[Taimoor]

The weak link is Iranian airspace where f35s can shoot down the Iranian delegation. Once in Pakistan it is safer etc

They should escort all the way to Tehran with AWACS and refueler support while keeping our kill chain envelop. Ofcourse with Iranian permission.

 

[Meengla]

NY Times account of the last minute intense negotiations which led to the ceasefire. Pakistani Army Chief Asim Munir was indeed working through that night (Pakistan time).
An excerpt.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/us/politics/chaos-cease-fire-iran.html

...

With the Iranians threatening to pull out of talks, frantic diplomatic efforts stretching from the Middle East to China quickly unfolded. Officials worked the phones to salvage a cease-fire plan and pull Iran and the United States from the brink of a bigger catastrophe, according to the three Iranian officials and a Pakistani official familiar with the efforts.

Pakistan’s prime minister and foreign minister worked the phones, speaking to both the Iranian president, Masoud Pezeshkian, and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi. Turkey, Egypt and Qatar also reached out to Iran, the officials said. But ultimately it was China, which has close economic ties to Iran, that broke the impasse, according to the Iranians and the Pakistani official.

China maintains close commercial ties to Iran — it is the biggest purchaser of Iranian oil — and also cooperates with the Iranian military. Chinese officials told their Iranian counterparts to agree to the cease-fire now because it might be their only opportunity, the Iranian officials said. China also asked Iran to show more flexibility and open the Strait of Hormuz to maritime navigation for two weeks and consider the economic impact of the war on its allies, including China.

Shortly after 5 p.m., Pakistan’s army chief, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, called Mr. Trump to discuss the contours of the cease-fire agreement. Mr. Munir told the president that the Iranians had agreed to Pakistan’s proposal.

If the Iranians agreed, Mr. Trump told Mr. Munir, then the Americans would.

The president then called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel to tell him that the United States would enter into a two-week cease-fire.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Okay lets assume Iranians had a nuclear weapon tested and ready, may be this war could have been avoided (this has proven wrong in Pakistan vs india case, the conflict can still exist in some form and shape without escalation to dooms day scenario).

Wrong... on so many levels. Both on nature of conflict, it's genesis, evolution, implications and perception... AND that one is somehow responsible for the actions of other.
apples and oranges.

But how would the region including Pakistan react to that presence?

How do Britain and France deal? What territorial, infringement on power, power vacuum or overlapping bilateral longstanding or underlying conflict is there to assume a use of nukes on each other much less a conventional conflict.

2nd Islamic bomb?

What would you call all the three states with nukes in NATO?

Or just a Persian bomb?

Persian, Kurdish, Baloch... are the ones dying or lying under the rubble also counted for their ethnic make up? Does an indiscriminate munition distinguish race, gender or ethnicity?

It will certainly be perceived as a threat to the immediate region, given a chance Iranians would act like bullies (they did fire missiles at nuclear Pakistan). We cannot ignore that Iranians did not and still do not have a very rosy relationship with other Muslim countries in the region.

What they did was reckless but not against Pakistan... and doing so is disingenuous at best. And Pakistani reply in kind was not against Iranian state either... second Iran has a niche in the region... its space cannot be denied and it's defense cannot be assigned to Pakistan... in fact, in this region all are slated to for destruction individually and in isolation... so who is anyone outside of Iran to decide their defense as Pakistan shows its back when it gets pounded by rats tail and a state on the other side of the world.

Iran and its sympathizers can blame the countries for having US bases but why not share that blame as Iran presented a reason for those bases to be there, have they ever given any thought to that and try to correct those reasons?

That is funny and a blatant lie. The region was carved by the Brits ... Emirates by treaties with individual sheikhs, Bahrain by parting Brits having a referendum and making it a separate entity outside of Iran and finally Kuwait and Qatar were colonies became own thing after Brits left... that is from the wider Middleeast whose political boundaries owe to mandates, deals... mechinations, connivance and post Ottoman split... nothing to do with Iran. In fact, Iran has had no sectarian bilateral wars with Gulf... though they both funded or backed groups elsewhere on sectarian lines. As to the US presence because of Iran is also a lie... US presence in Kuwait and Emirates was because of Iraq war(Gulf War 1) and started in 1990, in Saudi Arabia started right at the end of second world war and expanded during first Gulf War, in Qatar to manage wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and to protect Qataris from hostile takeover by Saudis. And finally in Oman there has been a longstanding British presence. So, to claim otherwise is just plucking one from thin air.
The US-Iranian spiral didn't start as something that Iran did against America. Iran had nationalized Anglo-Persian oil company a British and Persian venture... where US went ahead with Britain and replaced the government by a coup. The revolution was therefore vociferously anti American as brutal as Shahs regime was... the blame went straight to what US had enabled.
So, for anyone outside to say that let Iran just remain a victim and docile servant... I wouldn't make that call for them and not for You.

 

[mythbuster]

Provision to the secret service's approval, which I believe will not come. I think Veep will be escorted by the USAF or USN planes, if at all.

The moment it enters Pakistani airspace it will be escorted by PAF ...no ifs and buts. .. doesn't matter what aircraft is used for this purpose.

 

[Meengla]

I think if JD and Iranian officials meet in Islamabad, Issue of Lebanon and containing Israel will take most of their time. But with Presence of Kushner and Witkov who are basically the eyes and ears of Bibi in the Negotiations, I wonder how it will happen. Israel is becoming to much for even America to contain, lets see how long before American specifically the right wing will raise their own "Austrian Painter" cause Israel just can't help sucking a country and destroying its image.

You are right about Kushner and Witkof.
I had made a bold statement before this war began that if Trump had a heart attack and Vance took over then this war would not happen and I say now: If Trump has a heart attack now then this war will be wrapped up quickly, regardless of who is the President of the USA. JD Vance was never for attacking Iran anyway.
People underestimate the personalities of the US Presidents and how outsized roles the personalities play. Trump is the most Israeli stooge ever for reasons I have not fully understood yet.

 

[maverick]

for them its always about India. so insecure that even a single favourable story about Pakistan is unacceptable.

They have so much hatred towards Pakistan but infact they hate Islam and project it collectively on Pakistan.