Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Put up the PAF against the IAF+USAF in a fight then we can talk!
You don't know our history, so it's better not to comment on it. PAF is the only air force to have come across the Soviets; the Israeli and Indian air forces have always stood tall. As for USAF, this picture should give you a hint:

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The point being a proper air force is backed by multiple assets and the field day that IAF and USAF were enjoying over Iranain skies would not have been possible if Iran had proper assets with ground based support systems and SAM.
 
I'm sorry, I have seen many Pakistanis proudly acting like "See, you Iranians can't protect your self and your airspace, but we Pakistanis can"

So my question: what are you actually proud about? As far as I know, Pakistanis use Chinese Fighter jets. Under the Shah Iran also had a very strong airforce....provided by the Americans.

Where is the pride in a purchased airforce?
even in this current moment you still fukin arrogant. Its the same arrogance that took you to India and Russia's arms
 
Type 004 Carrier should be the start of that if its nuclear powered

I think china does have projection capability but regional for now.... Its not a fully blue water navy yet.

True power projection isn't just navigating blue seas. Its logistics, and the ability to deliver explosive tonnage, round the clock, any place around the globe.
 
I'm sorry, I have seen many Pakistanis proudly acting like "See, you Iranians can't protect your self and your airspace, but we Pakistanis can"

So my question: what are you actually proud about? As far as I know, Pakistanis use Chinese Fighter jets. Under the Shah Iran also had a very strong airforce....provided by the Americans.

Where is the pride in a purchased airforce?
Considering the IRIAF spent the last three decades on propoganda nonsense for its airforce with the Qaher and cd player passed off as mfd - the purchased Air force of the shah at least let you combat Iraq and have some semblance of protecting your airspace until it was left to rot.
 
Bigger delegation than the US but roughly the same security detail on the ground.

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they did bring like 80 people
 
Meaningless debate PAF isnt meant to fight usaf or iaf. But i can garuntee theyd do a hell of a better job than iranians. But if you are really curious you should read up on paf pilots who scored kills whilst fighting voluntarily for Arab airforces
I know about the PAF pilots who have scored kills against the IAF flying for the Syrian Air Force and others. I am not Putting down the PAF and its personnel but the PAF would have the same faith as the IRIAF going up against the U.S and Israeli air forces combined. Iran has already proven that its decision to focus Deep Underground Bases armed with Precision Surface to Surface Missiles and Attack drones was the right choice for Iran and its miniscule Defense budget after it was able to fight for 40 days straight and take out 13 U.S bases across the region according to the New York Post. Do you think the PAF could last 40 days against the USAF and IAF and do the same level of damage?
 
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Where is the pride in a purchased airforce?
Where is the pride of having to ask your enemy for safe passage through your own air space?

Considering the IRIAF spent the last three decades on propoganda nonsense for its airforce with the Qaher and cd player passed off as mfd - the purchased Air force of the shah at least let you combat Iraq and have some semblance of protecting your airspace until it was left to rot.
The IRIAF and the IRIAA were the main reasons that Iran spent the last 6 years of the war mostly in the Iraqi territory, instead of fighting to take back our lands in vain.
 
I know about the PAF pilots who have scored kills against the IAF flying for the Syrian Air Force and others. I am not Putting down the PAF and its personnel but the PAF would have the same faith as the IRIAF going up against the U.S and Israeli air forces combined. Iran has already proven that its decision to focus Deep Underground Bases armed with Precision Surface to Surface Missiles and Attack drones was the right choice for Iran and its miniscule Defense budget after it was able to fight for 40 days straight and take out 13 U.S bases across the region according to the New York Post. If you think the PAF could last 40 days against the USAF and IAF and do the same level of damage?

Good points and Irans ballistic missiles certainly did the job and drones offensively

but Irans defensive capability is lacking

those sub sonic Tomahawks are just flyover all over Iran

I hope Iran has a answer for them which would force US to switch to stand off
 
So Pakistan is now the enemy?
I was talking about Israel and the US. Pakistan did not enter Iranian air space.

Anyhow, which Iranian takes pride in it? Show me one.
That "purchased air force" enables you to have some authority over your air space, something that Iran lacked from the first day of war.
 
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Ask the Iranian brothers about the way they were escorted by our fly boys, who were armed to the teeth, all the way to ....

First time of many things happened today.

Suffice is to say, PAF has made us proud again today.
 
I was talking about Israel and the US. Pakistan did not enter Iranian air space.


That "purchased air force" enables you to have some authority over your air space, something that Iran lacked from the first day of war.
🤨 Again, which Iranian takes pride in it? Show me one.
 

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