Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[pakistaniandproud]

Bigger delegation than the US but roughly the same security detail on the ground.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Bigger delegation than the US but roughly the same security detail on the ground.

they did bring like 80 people

 

[Kyussis]

Meaningless debate PAF isnt meant to fight usaf or iaf. But i can garuntee theyd do a hell of a better job than iranians. But if you are really curious you should read up on paf pilots who scored kills whilst fighting voluntarily for Arab airforces

I know about the PAF pilots who have scored kills against the IAF flying for the Syrian Air Force and others. I am not Putting down the PAF and its personnel but the PAF would have the same faith as the IRIAF going up against the U.S and Israeli air forces combined. Iran has already proven that its decision to focus Deep Underground Bases armed with Precision Surface to Surface Missiles and Attack drones was the right choice for Iran and its miniscule Defense budget after it was able to fight for 40 days straight and take out 13 U.S bases across the region according to the New York Post. Do you think the PAF could last 40 days against the USAF and IAF and do the same level of damage?

 

[ShapurII]

Where is the pride in a purchased airforce?

Where is the pride of having to ask your enemy for safe passage through your own air space?

Considering the IRIAF spent the last three decades on propoganda nonsense for its airforce with the Qaher and cd player passed off as mfd - the purchased Air force of the shah at least let you combat Iraq and have some semblance of protecting your airspace until it was left to rot.

The IRIAF and the IRIAA were the main reasons that Iran spent the last 6 years of the war mostly in the Iraqi territory, instead of fighting to take back our lands in vain.

 

[Aziqbal]

I know about the PAF pilots who have scored kills against the IAF flying for the Syrian Air Force and others. I am not Putting down the PAF and its personnel but the PAF would have the same faith as the IRIAF going up against the U.S and Israeli air forces combined. Iran has already proven that its decision to focus Deep Underground Bases armed with Precision Surface to Surface Missiles and Attack drones was the right choice for Iran and its miniscule Defense budget after it was able to fight for 40 days straight and take out 13 U.S bases across the region according to the New York Post. If you think the PAF could last 40 days against the USAF and IAF and do the same level of damage?

Good points and Irans ballistic missiles certainly did the job and drones offensively

but Irans defensive capability is lacking

those sub sonic Tomahawks are just flyover all over Iran

I hope Iran has a answer for them which would force US to switch to stand off

 

[Homajon]

Where is the pride of having to ask your enemy for safe passage through your own air space?

So Pakistan is now the enemy?

Anyhow, which Iranian takes pride in it? Show me one.

 

[The SC]

 

[hasn2009]

Guys we are going off-topic too much, this thread is not about Pakistan.
Its about Iran - US/Israel conflict

 

[ShapurII]

So Pakistan is now the enemy?

I was talking about Israel and the US. Pakistan did not enter Iranian air space.

Anyhow, which Iranian takes pride in it? Show me one.

That "purchased air force" enables you to have some authority over your air space, something that Iran lacked from the first day of war.

 

[Falgrine]

Ask the Iranian brothers about the way they were escorted by our fly boys, who were armed to the teeth, all the way to ....

First time of many things happened today.

Suffice is to say, PAF has made us proud again today.

 

[Homajon]

I was talking about Israel and the US. Pakistan did not enter Iranian air space.


That "purchased air force" enables you to have some authority over your air space, something that Iran lacked from the first day of war.

Again, which Iranian takes pride in it? Show me one.

 

[Meengla]

I was talking about Israel and the US. Pakistan did not enter Iranian air space.

Iranian journalist Hussain Baqeri from Tehran yesterday reported that indeed the Iranian delegation flew out of a minor Iranian city to Pakistan while escorted by a Pakistani aircraft which was inside Iran. And this Pakistani analyst saying the same. Something to do with the transponders Off and On. Perhaps the extra precautions were not needed because even Israel wouldn't sabotage the Islamabad Talks where JD Vance was flying 15 hours to Pakistan but then... we are talking about Israelis here with their hubris and blank checks in America.
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[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

Iranian journalist Hussain Baqeri from Tehran yesterday reported that indeed the Iranian delegation flew out of a minor Iranian city to Pakistan while escorted by a Pakistani aircraft which was inside Iran. And this Pakistani analyst saying the same. Something to do with the transponders Off and On. Perhaps the extra precautions were not needed because even Israel wouldn't sabotage the Islamabad Talks where JD Vance was flying 15 hours to Pakistan but then... we are talking about Israelis here with their hubris and blank checks in America.
English captions available.

I don't know any "Hussain Baqeri" and I prefer to accept only official sources instead of stories and tales.

 

[The SC]

Pan Guang is an important Chinese researcher and founder of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Research Center
He says: China does not view Iran as the issue for which it will risk everything.

China views the region with a broader logic: the Gulf is important because it is a major energy source, the Strait of Hormuz is important because it is a sensitive route through which oil and trade pass, and any disruption in it raises prices and harms the Chinese economy. At the same time, Beijing believes that its interest is not only in linking itself to Iran, but in keeping the entire Gulf stable.

He continues.. If the Strait of Hormuz becomes turbulent or closed, the tension does not remain only within Iran, but extends to the sea near Pakistan and the port of Gwadar, raising shipping, insurance and trade risks in the entire region. Gwadar is originally a strategic port on the Arabian Sea close to the entrance to Hormuz, so any large fire in Hormuz puts direct pressure on the environment in which this corridor operates.