Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

UAE provides refuge to Baloch separatists - Indian and Israeli intelligence activities against Pakistan and is actively involved in providing safe haven for money (although that is a blanket policy of theirs) that is used to fund TTP via TTA.

But it isnt a "always has been" situation but a case of moods and changing loyalties.
Remember, this is where Gen Pasha went for intelligence direction when UaE wanted to both curb Iranian activities and also create a network against both Iran and its "ikhwan".

It is a simple case of survival and UAE sees that now with Israel and India to ensure Pakistan remains indebted to it forever.
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I made the mistake of taking everyone on this forum seriously, expecting it to be a think tank. My bad.
Sir you flew combat operations (including Split S maneuvers probably on that F-7 platform, don't know how you guys do it) and have serious insights. The rest of us here haven't seen it from that side, it may take some time to take people around the forums lightly.


Still.....canopy down and seat safe on the checklist is the experience to go with.....
 
It is a good handle overall. time will tell, but we know that Qatar recently said that it was going to shut down US bases in its country so there is a possibility that this is correct.

Yeah, makes sense, yesterday the Qataris literally stepped in and replaced all the withdrawn UAE deposits
 
Have we revealed what assets we have deployed at Saudi Arabia? Could it be a couple of AWEACS and some J-10's armed with PL-15s? Otherwise, Saudis already have Jets far capable than other assets that we may have. And we probably cannot even deploy US assets outside Pakistan without US approval.

Is it possible we deployed Mirages, as they are all Nuclear Capable? Or is that too far fetched?

Have we also, or are we going to deploy Land Forces?
 
Kudos to Pakistan for following through on the alliance. The might of Pakistan should reverberate throughout the world particularly the gulf states. It has been a long dream of Pakistan to be provider of security, the bearer of the Islamic bomb - looks like both are coming to fruition.

Enemies of Pakistan (esp India) should cower - for now - all BIG decisions in the world will be decided by Pakistan (ala Zaid Hamid) and the whole world will be with Pakistan

i'm sure you will continue to enjoy (cry) about your sheer irrelevance on global geopolitics. And you only have your own leaderships to credit that. May 2025 started it. and it continues.

For Pakistan It's not a dream, its its destiny and promised. Its coming to fruition now and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Enjoy your crying silently. Nobody in the world gives a **** about you guys now.
 
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This forum needs a strict cleansing tbh, its becoming a more "juicy tea" forum then a defence forum , you will find threads that should not even be on here operating like idk what..
A gupshup section with looser rules while defense sections having more strict rules may help.
 
some in knowledge says PAF deployment in Saudia is UAE specific i do not know how much water it holds.

Honestly what could a PAF contingent do in Saudi that too in Gulf? Saudia is more then well-armed to engage drones and Ballistic missiles from Iran? that is what i do not understand. what does PAF brings to the table.

Mind you Saudi AF is very good, its ADF is world most battle harden ADF after Entity.
I don't think Pakistan's assets will be used for anything. This is a political move by KSA. By invoking the defense treaty, they are demonstrating to whoever is concerned which side Pakistan is on. Hence, anyone who has hostile thoughts on KSA can take notice. It is a good preventive action.
 
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I don't think Pakistan's assets will be used for anything. This is a political move by KSA. By invoking the defense treaty, they are demonstrating to whoever is concerned which side Pakistan is on. Hence, anyone who has hostile thoughts on KSA can take notice. It is a good preventive action.
KSA safety is our red line, its pretty obvious.
 
Sir you flew combat operations (including Split S maneuvers probably on that F-7 platform, don't know how you guys do it) and have serious insights. The rest of us here haven't seen it from that side, it may take some time to take people around the forums lightly.


Still.....canopy down and seat safe on the checklist is the experience to go with.....
It is not about taking those people lightly but sometimes the cringe becomes unbearable. Humility is a virtue and vanity leads to judgmental sweeping statements that make this forum toxic.
 
It is not about taking those people lightly but sometimes the cringe becomes unbearable. Humility is a virtue and vanity leads to judgmental sweeping statements that make this forum toxic.
Couldn't agree more sir, but you cannot change some people's way of thinking.
 
Couldn't agree more sir, but you cannot change some people's way of thinking.
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Viewing the same object from different perspectives yields entirely different results. If we wish to perceive things as they truly are, we must observe them from multiple viewpoints.

Regrettably, the vast majority of people typically remain fixed within a single perspective, stubbornly clinging to their own judgments.
 
Isn't it some kind of signaling ?

One aspect of this may be that (I think there is a consensus forming) certain baby kingdoms need to be leashed and zionist hindutva influence scaled down in the region (Qatar caught indians spying for zionists), there may have been false flag attacks on the kingdom to push it into war with iran. These baby kingdoms have tried to go against kingdom too. Qaddafi was right when he said "Today it is Saddam, tomorrow it will be you". I do not think there will be huge presence of Pakistani manpower, just enough to train, lead and take part if needed. Saudis would like to build their own fighting manpower.
Whichever way we look at it, irrespective of our numbers, this is needed for Pakistan. Spread to tackle any potential threats in advance and to curtail hindutva, they have been exploiting our internal turmoil for long now to gain medals from this region.
 
Saudi indeed provided money for the Pakistani govt, not the nuke program and only enough to survive. Saudi investments in Pakistan are appreciated but not large.

What Saudis get back is the Pakistani force deployment to protect some sectors of the country. That is all. There is no nuke umbrella for Saudi Arabia. Saudi isnt getting nuke umbrella after throwing a few crumbs at Pakistanis while spending trillions on the West.

You cannot seriously ignore hindutva opening up to zionists so openly. Whether we like it or not Pakistan does need strategic depth, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th strike capabilities. iran hamari ainway he nai itni sun raha, unhay b shayad aisi he kisi cheez ki zarorat pari ho gi.
 

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