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Crazy how much tolerance the Saudi leadership has. Something like this would not be tolerated in Turkey.
However, I believe their reluctance stems from the fact that they actively support Israel's attacks on Iran. In other words: they know that they're guilty.
mythbuster
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Why should Saudis bother when others are doing the dirty work for them.
Tabmachine
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they know they're guilty and they also know if they were to directly engage they would get hit even harder
With the kinds of ballistic missiles you guys have, yeah it would not be a fun time going tit for tat with all that
I just witnessed an online discussion involving Saudis, other Arabs, and Turks. The difference in mindset was crazy. The Turks were curious as to why Riyadh didn't respond militarily to Iranian strikes on their energy facilities, especially since they have one of the most advanced and powerful air forces in the world and generally claim leadership in the Arab and Islamic world.
The Turkish users just couldn't understand why anyone would choose not to retaliate when being attacked, especially if you have tge means. They didn't address the question of the war's legality against Iran in this debate; the question was deliberately set aside. They were just trying to figure out why the Saudis did not respond militarily. The Arabs on the other hand kept insisting they wanted to avoid escalating the conflict, but the Turks dismissed this answer which made the other side very angry.
All (geo)politics aside, we are absolutely different in mindset, principles and ideology compared to the rest of the Middle East.
The Turkish users just couldn't understand why anyone would choose not to retaliate when being attacked, especially if you have tge means. They didn't address the question of the war's legality against Iran in this debate; the question was deliberately set aside. They were just trying to figure out why the Saudis did not respond militarily. The Arabs on the other hand kept insisting they wanted to avoid escalating the conflict, but the Turks dismissed this answer which made the other side very angry.
All (geo)politics aside, we are absolutely different in mindset, principles and ideology compared to the rest of the Middle East.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
To be fair to them, its a trap.
If they actively engage, there is nothing they can do that the Israelis and the US hasn't already been doing, on the other hand, the damage returned will be far greater in the long run.
As much as they might want to respond, they didn't want this war in the first place, this war was imposed on them by the US and Israel's attack.
We have also been Urging them diplomatically to not respond, Hakan Fidan dissuaded them in the recent conversations and trip to Riyadh. Turkey along with Pakistan have been trying to diffuse this, While the US and Israel are hoping Saudi join them.
Even if the Saudis want to respond, and they did try to get Pakistan involved by involking the pact, but I believe the Pakistanis refused or were hesitant.
You noticed recently the Emiratis demanded $3 billion back from the Pakistanis. This was from the bad blood from a recent meeting in Riyadh. Pakistan had refused to condemn Iran and refused to sign a joint statement.
Pakistan has tried to play this down the middle by instead deploying troops to Saudi and Aircraft to shoot down drones.
There is a lot of funny business going on. Where there are allegations that the Emiratis(who are essentially an Israeli proxy at this point) are stoking Saudi, some of those drones that hit Saudi, the Iranians denied it was them, and there were allegations that the Emiratis or Israelis have been launching drones that hit Saudi oil infrastructure.
The real problem with Saudi is those US bases in their country are a liability for them and the US presence is whats bringing the Iranian retaliation. They have used Saudi airspace to launch attack, even if saudi wants to deny that, we can see the refuelers and AWACS based out of Saudi participating.
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