PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

Xestan said:
He has habit of exaggerating things. I remember him claiming that Pakistan used more ordnance in May-25 than we did in 1965 war.
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Yeah but that could actually be true if you measure in TNT mass... Todays explosives are smaller and more lethal(errr)...
 
Oscar said:
The drone claim I have heard during the war from operational folks well before warned article.

I never probed what drone but it is plausible that post the IAF grounding there was a window of opportunity to skirt AD and potentially put a MALE in the general vicinity of Dehli knowing that IAF was skittish about radar emissions thinking it was a bait to allow for location on AD systems.
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India today initially reported some drone activity over Delhi and then everything went hush hush...
 
Oscar said:
The drone claim I have heard during the war from operational folks well before warned article.

I never probed what drone but it is plausible that post the IAF grounding there was a window of opportunity to skirt AD and potentially put a MALE in the general vicinity of Dehli knowing that IAF was skittish about radar emissions thinking it was a bait to allow for location on AD systems.
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@Oscar wouldn't PAF's much touted EW Aircraft and systems be able to sniff the Indian AD and other assets emissions and figure out if they had gone silent then there was window of opportunity to sneak in?
 
rafale said:
@Oscar wouldn't PAF's much touted EW Aircraft and systems be able to sniff the Indian AD and other assets emissions and figure out if they had gone silent then there was window of opportunity to sneak in?
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erieyes are equipped with the HES21 suite designed for ESM/ELINT
 
Oscar said:
Them going for the missile requires the ability to actually employ it.

Its performance in Ukraine has been mixed especially considering that the Ukrainian Air Force was pretty first generation Mig-29s and Sukhois compared to what the Russians were fielding.

Technically negating the R-37 is probably going to be exactly what the Indians did to negate PL-15 post may 7th - they adopted route discipline to stay away from PAF aircraft coordinated with their radar and ground defenses.
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You are right........but they could hardly deploy what they did have, i.e. the much over hyped Meteors..........Meteor was literally the reason they wanted to get Rafales.

R-37 might be 400km, but how are you gonna provide actionable guidance over that long distance?
 
rafale said:
You are right........but they could hardly deploy what they did have, i.e. the much over hyped Meteors..........Meteor was literally the reason they wanted to get Rafales.

R-37 might be 400km, but how are you gonna provide actionable guidance over that long distance?
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Always remember, Russian numbers are almost always overstated. There is a 60+ year history behind it. When China says 250+ km, it is that. For PL15, all Chinese say it has a range of 200-300 km. PAF has hit an IAF fighter at almost 200 km. When America says the max range of AMRAM 120C5 is 115 km, in real terms it is very close. But when Russian numbers say it is 115 km, it is most probably 70-80 km, best case. The Su30MKI radar was boosted as a mini aewcs. It turns out JF17Blk2 and Su30MKI see each other almost at the same time.
 
rafale said:
You are right........but they could hardly deploy what they did have, i.e. the much over hyped Meteors..........Meteor was literally the reason they wanted to get Rafales.

R-37 might be 400km, but how are you gonna provide actionable guidance over that long distance?
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In comparison to PL15 the R-37 guidance and Nez who will be better is a question too over those ranges.
 
studsmart said:
Always remember, Russian numbers are almost always overstated. There is a 60+ year history behind it. When China says 250+ km, it is that. For PL15, all Chinese say it has a range of 200-300 km. PAF has hit an IAF fighter at almost 200 km. When America says the max range of AMRAM 120C5 is 115 km, in real terms it is very close. But when Russian numbers say it is 115 km, it is most probably 70-80 km, best case. The Su30MKI radar was boosted as a mini aewcs. It turns out JF17Blk2 and Su30MKI see each other almost at the same time.
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......and now imagine the overstated numbers in the hands of overhyped and overconfident indians..........May 7th is what you will get.

Raptor of the east, Mini Awacs, F-22 killer......this nonsense can literally be only from one stinky nation on earth..........
 
Toxic said:
J-10C without a tail number @Deino

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damn that was fast . seems we really did place order immediately after may
 
aurelianpilled said:
kab ayenge yar new batches
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Indeed, he is right ...

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