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That's a lot of Aircraft down considering they are USA only
Nothing about Israeli losses
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The US is not the country being blockaded , economy near total collapse, and military industrial base razed.

The US lost nothing. Military objectives were met, it gained control over the global energy market, oil exports are now at record highs, stocks are higher than at the start of the war, and growth is strong. Meanwhile Iran is nearing failed state status.
The stock market is currently 400 points higher than it was at the start of the conflict. YTD it is 1001 points higher but still 758 points lower than its all-time high.

Meanwhile, the steep rise in energy prices have negatively impacted every downstream measure that relies on energy. Farming, transportation, good and services, grocery store prices.

Your myopic view of the state of the US economy and what is to come is simply stunning.
 
The US is not the country being blockaded , economy near total collapse, and military industrial base razed.

The US lost nothing. Military objectives were met, it gained control over the global energy market, oil exports are now at record highs, stocks are higher than at the start of the war, and growth is strong. Meanwhile Iran is nearing failed state status.
What military objectives were met?

The whole point of military action was to regime change, destroy missile drone infrastructure, take the Uranium, have an Iranian surrender the US failed and lost strategically. Iran holds the SOH and will decide who can cross it, the blockade is not effective ships are passing through. Trump said irans oil infrastructure will collapse it didn't, then they said their oil storage facilities will be overflowing it isn't they are still selling oil. Your leaders keep changing the goal posts and they still fail.

US and Israel carried out warcrimes attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure, Iranian economy was spent before the war even started so your not going to make it much worse now, its the world economy including US which will go in a tail spin and trump knows it. Your stock markets are bouyed by the fake AI boom which will pop soon as well.

ADM Cooper and Gen Caine are 100% accurate. These are highly professional commanders who are extremely competent at their jobs leading the most capable military in human history. Don’t ever compare them with IRGC lunatics.
No your leaders are the lunatics your military generals who deny bombing 22 schools, 17 hospitals as reported by your own media the new york times shows how much a liar Cooper is. Guy is a war criminal should be locked up. The real figure is much higher hundreds were reported as bombed.

Yea they can't be compared with IRGC who dont kill children or double tap schools and hospitals.
 
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The primary objectives of the war are to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and destroying their ability to shield such a program with enormous stocks of drones and ballistic missiles.

1. Irans nuclear industrial base is largely destroyed and HEU is buried at Isfahan. Negotiations on enrichment and HEU extraction are ongoing

2. 90% of Irans defense industrial base is destroyed. Its ballistic missile stocks is roughly halved after 38 days of combat. 60% of Irans drone stocks expended or destroyed. Irans ability to shield a nuclear weapons program is now destroyed. That was a key objective that’s been met and will take Iran many years to reconstitute.

3. The US sunk 161 Iranian naval ships and will take a generation to reconstitute

4.Irans ability to project power in the region is significantly degraded. Its ability to resupply its proxies is effectively over.

5. Naval blockade of Iran has shifted global energy control to the US
You really are something aren't you 😂 you talk such BS. You're losing now all of sudden regime change wasn't the objective?! 😂 Then why did you kill the leadership?! 😂 Besides, you and Trump are not in charge, netanyahooo is, you're cannon fodder for the Israelis. Last year when you attacked Iran you proudly claimed all your "military objectives were met", if so, why attack Iran again?! 😂 It's like you claiming back in 2022 the Russians would run out of tanks and armour in a few months 😂 merika strong!
 
The stock market is currently 400 points higher than it was at the start of the conflict. YTD it is 1001 points higher but still 758 points lower than its all-time high.

Meanwhile, the steep rise in energy prices have negatively impacted every downstream measure that relies on energy. Farming, transportation, good and services, grocery store prices.

Your myopic view of the state of the US economy and what is to come is simply stunning.

NASDAQ and S&P 500 have over 10+ record high closes since the war started. The Dow is still hovering near record highs.

Brent crude is still $100-110. Elevated, but not a significant risk to the economy at those prices. Inflation at 3.8% in April, but nowhere near Biden era inflation. Retail sales saw solid growth in April.
 
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I mean the USA lost some planes in war. In real world terms it barely makes a dent in the USA arsenal

LOL at some people actually thinking USA was losing the war because of some planes.

USA just didn't achieve any strategic objectives

Considering 24 of the 42 were low flying MQ9 drones

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What military objectives were met?

The whole point of military action was to regime change, destroy missile drone infrastructure, take the Uranium, have an Iranian surrender the US failed and lost strategically. Iran holds the SOH and will decide who can cross it, the blockade is not effective ships are passing through. Trump said irans oil infrastructure will collapse it didn't, then they said their oil storage facilities will be overflowing it isn't they are still selling oil. Your leaders keep changing the goal posts and they still fail.

US and Israel carried out warcrimes attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure, Iranian economy was spent before the war even started so your not going to make it much worse now, its the world economy including US which will go in a tail spin and trump knows it. Your stock markets are bouyed by the fake AI boom which will pop soon as well.


No your leaders are the lunatics your military generals who deny bombing 22 schools, 17 hospitals as reported by your own media the new york times shows how much a liar Cooper is. Guy is a war criminal should be locked up. The real figure is much higher hundreds were reported as bombed.

Yea they can't be compared with IRGC who dont kill children or double tap schools and hospitals.

I’m not going to repeat myself. I’ll refer you to my prior posts on what military objectives have been met. Also ADM Coopers statement and testimony to US Senate and House Armed Services Committees:

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To add on:

-Regime change was never a primary objective nor was the US military tasked with such an operation.

- $300B in direct economic damage, or 80% of Irans prewar GDP. The blockade is absolutely working, that’s been confirmed by Centcom. Iran has already reduced extraction, and gasoline production is not meeting daily needs. Irans onshore storage is full and they have only so many tankers to load. Oil revenue loss was estimated at $4.8B as of 3 weeks ago. That number has likely doubled since then. Iran is nearing failed state status
 
You really are something aren't you 😂 you talk such BS. You're losing now all of sudden regime change wasn't the objective?! 😂 Then why did you kill the leadership?! 😂 Besides, you and Trump are not in charge, netanyahooo is, you're cannon fodder for the Israelis. Last year when you attacked Iran you proudly claimed all your "military objectives were met", if so, why attack Iran again?! 😂 It's like you claiming back in 2022 the Russians would run out of tanks and armour in a few months 😂 merika strong!

- We killed Khamenei in the hope a successor will be willing to work with US, and cease the pursuit of a nuclear weapon. Similar to Maduros removal and Delcy cooperation with US. We were never going full on Saddam style regime change in Iran.

- Midnight Hammer successfully buried Irans HEU and destroyed Irans nuclear facilities, but the missile, drone, and naval capabilities of Iran were not addressed last year

- I never claimed Russia would run out of tanks or armor in months. I said their deep storage would be significantly degraded by this year, and it has been. Ukraines drone superiority has made Russian armored mechanized assaults obsolete. This is a completely different war now than in 2022-2023. How’s it going for Russia BTW? Total stalemate at the front, losing 30,000+ dead and wounded every month, it’s AD and logistical support getting hit at operational depths almost daily, and Russian territory getting smashed by Ukr drones at the highest rate of the war. To say it’s going poorly for Russia is an understatement…
 
- We killed Khamenei in the hope a successor will be willing to work with US, and cease the pursuit of a nuclear weapon. Similar to Maduros removal and Delcy cooperation with US. We were never going full on Saddam style regime change in Iran.

- Midnight Hammer successfully buried Irans HEU and destroyed Irans nuclear facilities, but the missile, drone, and naval capabilities of Iran were not addressed last year

- I never claimed Russia would run out of tanks or armor in months. I said their deep storage would be significantly degraded by this year, and it has been. Ukraines drone superiority has made Russian armored mechanized assaults obsolete. This is a completely different war now than in 2022-2023. How’s it going for Russia BTW? Total stalemate at the front, losing 30,000+ dead and wounded every month, it’s AD and logistical support getting hit at operational depths almost daily, and Russian territory getting smashed by Ukr drones at the highest rate of the war. To say it’s going poorly for Russia is an understatement…
You MAGA lot really are something else, I've seen some dumb fucks in my time, but I've never seen an entire country become retarded...well, apart from india. And in that respect, you share so much alike, especially your arrogance and brainless media spewing complete BS.
 
You MAGA lot really are something else, I've seen some dumb fucks in my time, but I've never seen an entire country become retarded...well, apart from india. And in that respect, you share so much alike, especially your arrogance and brainless media spewing complete BS.

I haven’t voted for Trump a single time in the last 3 elections.

As for Iran-US, the bottom line here is has the US gotten stronger and improved its strategic position relative to the rest of the world and its primary adversaries?

Yes, unquestionably so. Iran is now at its weakest in history. Its military and industrial base are decimated. Its economy is approaching failed state status. $300B in direct damage, and that doesn’t include the blockade. Its proxies have been steamrolled, and Irans ability to resupply them is mostly gone.

The US meanwhile suffered minimal damage in return. Brent crude is still around $100 after 3 months. The US controls the Strait and global energy markets. Energy exports are at record highs. The economy is booming at 2% growth after Q1. Stocks are at record highs and set multiple new records after the war.

-Russia is buried in Ukraine
-China nowhere to be found on the world geopolitical stage amid a real estate collapse and cratered TFR. They have minimal ability to influence events outside their near abroad. USN Hormuz blockade of Chinese oil is a prime example
- Venezuela was US captured in a single night
- Cuba now hosting the CIA in Havana and can’t keep the lights on longer than two hours a day

Oh and as I type this, US stocks are once again flying. The US just can’t stop stacking wins
 

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I’m not going to repeat myself. I’ll refer you to my prior posts on what military objectives have been met. Also ADM Coopers statement and testimony to US Senate and House Armed Services Committees:

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To add on:

-Regime change was never a primary objective nor was the US military tasked with such an operation.

- $300B in direct economic damage, or 80% of Irans prewar GDP. The blockade is absolutely working, that’s been confirmed by Centcom. Iran has already reduced extraction, and gasoline production is not meeting daily needs. Irans onshore storage is full and they have only so many tankers to load. Oil revenue loss was estimated at $4.8B as of 3 weeks ago. That number has likely doubled since then. Iran is nearing failed state status

The testimony is based on optimistic hopium assessment.

lets look into it deeply, prewar Irans ability to supply Hezbollah and Hamas was weakened considerably due to the Gaza genocide and Syria falling from Asad. There was no objective therefore to achieve with Op EF (Epsteins Failure)

Irans navy and airforce were no threat to its neighbours or Israel, no pre-war objective therefore to achieve.

The only objective mentioned there which has weight is to weaken Irans missle, drone, weapons production sites. Whats the exact wording used "damaged or destroyed" that's very unambiguous because 50% could be damaged infrastructure that may be quickly rebuilt. This is referring to what they believed to be known targets but they hit hundreds of hospitals and schools so how do we know whether they were included on their list. There is zero transparency.

The US military doesn't know for sure how many missile and drone production sites Iran has, so that 85% figure doesn't mean much in reality. You can say partial objective met but not more than that without corroborated evidence.

The main objective of the war was regime change and to secure the nuclear sites. Why otherwise did they kill an 80+ year old spiritual leader who had no military bearing. You say that allowed Iranians to rise up to remove the government, well that proves regime change was a goal. trump admitted to supplying arms so did the Israelis. Trump keeps bragging about regime change and news out today says they wanted to install ahmedinajad.

So big failure there.

Next, they couldn't protect the gulfies who got hit non-stop, Iran matched US escalation ladder forcing Trump to agree to a ceasefire, there were constant reports of Trump admin wanting a ceasefire and the Iranians rejecting it. Another failure.

Nuclear sites, Iran still controls the Uranium and there are rumours of other undisclosed sites so Irans Nuclear capability is not dealt with. Another failure.

Iran controls the SOH, no one can enter or exit without Irans permission, we saw how quickly trumps operation freedom or whatever he called it failed within 48hrs. This one a strategic blunder.

Russia is selling more oil than ever before even with waivers, Another strategic blunder.

Irans main currency for war were its missile bases, US could not take a single one out, massive military failure.

US and Israel are isolated around the world, not a single country wanted to join and help or to force open SOH, a big diplomatic failure.

You keep talking about the $300bn damages to Irans economy, yes US and Israel were out to destabilise Iran and committed war crimes destroying civilian infrastructure so no suprise with the financial damages but they have the largest gas and oil reserves in the world which can help them recover quickly.

Despite all that military pressure Iran stands, has setup a toll booth in SOH and geo-strategically became the most important country in the ME all because of your moronic leaders.

Any sane person can see clear as day what this war is, operation epstein failure at a grand scale.
 
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