PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[Oscar]

ROE's would be the same for both sides though

The question isnt so much as RoEs on how the engagements were set up but what the aircraft were permitted to simulate?

We know the Qataris used meteors recently -
Were they cleared to do the same in the exercise?

If they were it also was helping PAF evaluate Meteors suitability and then perhaps gives even more credence that PAF KNEW that meteors would not reach employment envelope while the PAF could lob PL-15s at them.

Then comes what parameters were kills called? If the parameters were judged within the "allied" disclosable tipwi and assuming this happened in Qatar probably dont have that advanced ranges(happy to be corrected @Ak01 , @Raider 21 ) then they used self reporting for the kill using reference cards unless ACMI was actually involved.

Keep in mind - Qatar has no room for a full true instrumented range, they dont use the CENTCOM one - they bought the land outside Mountain home FOR THAT.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Again sane arrogant retard behavior. I hate it when you act like Indian trolls. Grow up.
And I can ask you same thing.... What is your evidence SCMP is crap/junk source?
Regarding fanboy thing I think I must show you the mirror. Just look at your ID name. That shows a lot who is "fanboy".
Also I must remind you that you are same person which had previously two IDs in this forum.
Last thing..... I will advise you as a brother.... Calm down and stop banging your head to every other wall you see on your way.
Now back to the topic.

I never had 2 accounts ever here on PDF or on old PDF, Ask @Deino that how reliable SCMP is on Chinese military matters

And last give me third party (Neutral) sources (other than Chinese sources) that J-10C scored 9-0 against EF-2000, look dude J-10 is their product so may be they are hyping to their product to increase their export

 

[Desprado123]

So Pakistan confirms to induct more j 10c but can someone explain what PAF meant by upgrade jf 17 I mean are we going to get upgraded units of jf 17 or we are going to upgrade current units?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

If you care to read or pay attention it’s actually quoting Chinese state broadcaster CCTV …..

And last give me third party (Neutral) sources (other than Chinese sources) that J-10C scored 9-0 against EF-2000, look dude J-10 is their product so may be they are hyping to their product to increase their exports, and its similar to IAF's MKIs/RAF's Typhoons exercises back in 2010 (as far as can I remember) when Russian and Indian media claimed that MKI eats Typhoon without using BARs PEASA radars but British media denied such claims by Russia/India

 

[royalharris]

And last give me third party (Neutral) sources (other than Chinese sources) that J-10C scored 9-0 against EF-2000, look dude J-10 is their product so may be they are hyping to their product to increase their exports, and its similar to IAF's MKIs/RAF's Typhoons exercises back in 2010 (as far as can I remember) when Russian and Indian media claimed that MKI eats Typhoon without using BARs PEASA radars but British media denied such claims by Russia/India

You’ve got something wrong with your head. If someone has stated a conclusion and provided a source, and you doubt it, then you need to bring out your own data or sources to refute their conclusion—not just say “I doubt it” or “I don’t believe it” and expect others to prove it to you again and again.

Who do you think you are?you are nothing but rubbish for the others.

Believe it or not, that’s up to you. But before you can produce a conclusion, data, or evidence,don’t spout bullshit.

 

[mythbuster]

In a dogfight J 10C is absolutely no match for Rafael and typhoon , both are way superior platforms ....what gave edge to J 10C in may conflict were the superior tactics of PAF that gave her geometrical advantage along with PL 15 and AWACS.

 

[royalharris]

In a dogfight J 10C is absolutely no match for Rafael and typhoon , both are way superior platforms ....what gave edge to J 10C in may conflict were the superior tactics of PAF that gave her geometrical advantage along with PL 15 and AWACS.

Look at you, you are do righr and so smart.
Pakistani government and Pakistani air force are so wrong and so foolish.
Hurry up and go persuade the Pakistani government and the Pakistan Air Force not to buy the J-10C and J-35. Tell them to hurry up and buy the Typhoon and Rafale instead.

 

[ety]

In a dogfight J 10C is absolutely no match for Rafael and typhoon , both are way superior platforms ....what gave edge to J 10C in may conflict were the superior tactics of PAF that gave her geometrical advantage along with PL 15 and AWACS.

I think J-10CE ‘9-0’ score over Eurofighter Typhoon in Pakistan-Qatar Zilzal-II exercise includes 5 points of dogfights.

 

[Desprado123]

If anyone watch Top Gun 2 which is one of the best tactical jet based movie and During Israel and Iran war, in modern era jet is not used for dogfights but mainly for target strike, surgical strike, bombing targeted sites. Ukraine and Iran showed the world that Drone can be the real game changer.

 

[TopGun786]

I never had 2 accounts ever here on PDF or on old PDF, Ask @Deino that how reliable SCMP is on Chinese military matters

And last give me third party (Neutral) sources (other than Chinese sources) that J-10C scored 9-0 against EF-2000, look dude J-10 is their product so may be they are hyping to their product to increase their export

Why should I ask Deino? I respect him but that doesn't mean I am going to take his opinion. Was he present at the exercise?
And think again,.... Are you sure you didn't have another ID on PDF? What if I bring the proof?

 

[mythbuster]

Look at you, you are do righr and so smart.
Pakistani government and Pakistani air force are so wrong and so foolish.
Hurry up and go persuade the Pakistani government and the Pakistan Air Force not to buy the J-10C and J-35. Tell them to hurry up and buy the Typhoon and Rafale instead.

Ok , feel good about your silly rant.

 

[mythbuster]

I think J-10CE ‘9-0’ score over Eurofighter Typhoon in Pakistan-Qatar Zilzal-II exercise includes 5 points of dogfights.

I am not buying some fanboys cock and bull story.

 

[royalharris]

Ok , feel good about your silly rant.

No one is complaining. They’re just praising you as a real genius. Enjoy your brilliance!

 

[AeronautIR]

I forgot if it was @side-winder or @AeronautIR who clarified the context of this Typhoon Vs J10CE thing in Qatari exercise. I can't find that post. But the bottom line is, this is not what people thinking it is.

Generally in exercises, there are canned setups and strict pre-briefed ROE. The PL-15 has a longer range so this result is possible, but I won't read much into it.

 

[abcefg]

Feel free to put this user - NGAD whatever strange name to IGNORE LIST or PERMANENT BAN for attacking every other users without understanding clearly.

@Fatman17 @RescueRanger @Musings

he is a kid, let him be.