Modi's migrant madness

[Musings]

Why is it in the freezing cold, indians wear winter jackets but walk in summer sandals with their feet exposed to the cold conditions. Don't indian feet get cold?

Bro please - they are superpower. Especially on PDF.
On a serious note - they literally sell their properties - savings and gold - just to be conned by agents to get here - just to realize its not the way they see it in Bollywood films. Its a tough one. Then be a burden on society here.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bro please - they are superpower. Especially on PDF.
On a serious note - they literally sell their properties - savings and gold - just to be conned by agents to get here - just to realize its not the way they see it in Bollywood films. Its a tough one. Then be a burden on society here.

Their own people srew them over but they blame all their problems on Pakistanis and Muslims. Now, all non-indians hate indians.

 

[samsite84]

Bro please - they are superpower. Especially on PDF.
On a serious note - they literally sell their properties - savings and gold - just to be conned by agents to get here - just to realize its not the way they see it in Bollywood films. Its a tough one. Then be a burden on society here.

@PAKISTANFOREVER @Musings
Data guys data - or does it go to die on PDF.

UK
Country of origin Estimated immigrant population in UK Median annual earnings
India ~960,000 (≈9% of UK foreign-born population) Above UK median overall (exact country figure not consistently published)
Poland ~850,000 (≈8%) Around UK median overall
Pakistan ~640,000 (≈6%) Among lower large-group earnings
Romania ~530,000 (≈5%) Below UK median overall
Ireland ~430,000 (≈4%) Highest among large migrant groups
Australia Smaller population ~£53,700
New Zealand Smaller population ~£51,900
United States ~180,000–200,000 ~£48,200
Canada Smaller population ~£48,100
France Smaller population ~£41,600
Bulgaria Smaller population ~£24,800

USA
United States (foreign-born / ancestry groups)

The US Census ACS publishes detailed income tables by ancestry and foreign-born status.

Country/Origin group Estimated immigrant or ancestry population Median household income (US$)
Indian origin ~4.8 million Indian-born / much larger Indian ancestry population ~$150k+ (among highest immigrant groups)
Chinese origin ~2.5 million foreign-born ~$100k+
Filipino origin ~2.0 million foreign-born ~$110k+
Mexican origin ~10.6 million Mexican-born ~$65k–70k
Vietnamese origin ~1.4 million foreign-born ~$90k+
Nigerian origin ~500k+ foreign-born ~$80k–90k
Iranian origin Smaller population ~$105k
Lebanese origin Smaller population ~$100k
Russian origin Smaller population ~$100k
Australian origin Smaller population ~$117k

 

[Musings]

@PAKISTANFOREVER @Musings
Data guys data - or does it go to die on PDF.

UK
Country of origin Estimated immigrant population in UK Median annual earnings
India ~960,000 (≈9% of UK foreign-born population) Above UK median overall (exact country figure not consistently published)
Poland ~850,000 (≈8%) Around UK median overall
Pakistan ~640,000 (≈6%) Among lower large-group earnings
Romania ~530,000 (≈5%) Below UK median overall
Ireland ~430,000 (≈4%) Highest among large migrant groups
Australia Smaller population ~£53,700
New Zealand Smaller population ~£51,900
United States ~180,000–200,000 ~£48,200
Canada Smaller population ~£48,100
France Smaller population ~£41,600
Bulgaria Smaller population ~£24,800

USA
United States (foreign-born / ancestry groups)

The US Census ACS publishes detailed income tables by ancestry and foreign-born status.

Country/Origin group Estimated immigrant or ancestry population Median household income (US$)
Indian origin ~4.8 million Indian-born / much larger Indian ancestry population ~$150k+ (among highest immigrant groups)
Chinese origin ~2.5 million foreign-born ~$100k+
Filipino origin ~2.0 million foreign-born ~$110k+
Mexican origin ~10.6 million Mexican-born ~$65k–70k
Vietnamese origin ~1.4 million foreign-born ~$90k+
Nigerian origin ~500k+ foreign-born ~$80k–90k
Iranian origin Smaller population ~$105k
Lebanese origin Smaller population ~$100k
Russian origin Smaller population ~$100k
Australian origin Smaller population ~$117k

And here comes the battalion to throw figures.
Firstly stop diversifying and stick to India. I dont need a statistical update or breakdown - i live here and see the impact of the indians sending their masses over.
You can insinuate all the drama you want - the world begs to differ.

 

[samsite84]

And here comes the battalion to throw figures.
Firstly stop diversifying and stick to India. I dont need a statistical update or breakdown - i live here and see the impact of the indians sending their masses over.
You can insinuate all the drama you want - the world begs to differ.

That is the same anecdotal BS you throw around. I have been to London and have friends residing there. They tell me how London has become a hellhole due to Muslim migration. No job, no education and want to live off state benefits. Have infiltrated the school systems where local and other migrant population now feel unsafe. They promote conversions and such.

The reason I don't want to stick to that narrative is because that's my experience which can be n=1. Data - well that cuts through BS. And either you want to debate or not. You can always have a view - world begs to differ but you never define the "world" and scoot away. What a waste of time...

 

[Musings]

That is the same anecdotal BS you throw around. I have been to London and have friends residing there. They tell me how London has become a hellhole due to Muslim migration. No job, no education and want to live off state benefits. Have infiltrated the school systems where local and other migrant population now feel unsafe. They promote conversions and such.

The reason I don't want to stick to that narrative is because that's my experience which can be n=1. Data - well that cuts through BS. And either you want to debate or not. You can always have a view - world begs to differ but you never define the "world" and scoot away. What a waste of time...

We have 24 shops around the M25 and lived in the UK all my life.
I know it hurts knowing your brethren are polluting the UK. No need to go off topic and talk about Pakistan - its really not the topic.
Migrants arent entitled to benefits.
Begging Indians have ruined the UK - especially London. Now back to the pakora stand and continue selling.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

@PAKISTANFOREVER @Musings
Data guys data - or does it go to die on PDF.

UK
Country of origin Estimated immigrant population in UK Median annual earnings
India ~960,000 (≈9% of UK foreign-born population) Above UK median overall (exact country figure not consistently published)
Poland ~850,000 (≈8%) Around UK median overall
Pakistan ~640,000 (≈6%) Among lower large-group earnings
Romania ~530,000 (≈5%) Below UK median overall
Ireland ~430,000 (≈4%) Highest among large migrant groups
Australia Smaller population ~£53,700
New Zealand Smaller population ~£51,900
United States ~180,000–200,000 ~£48,200
Canada Smaller population ~£48,100
France Smaller population ~£41,600
Bulgaria Smaller population ~£24,800

USA
United States (foreign-born / ancestry groups)

The US Census ACS publishes detailed income tables by ancestry and foreign-born status.

Country/Origin group Estimated immigrant or ancestry population Median household income (US$)
Indian origin ~4.8 million Indian-born / much larger Indian ancestry population ~$150k+ (among highest immigrant groups)
Chinese origin ~2.5 million foreign-born ~$100k+
Filipino origin ~2.0 million foreign-born ~$110k+
Mexican origin ~10.6 million Mexican-born ~$65k–70k
Vietnamese origin ~1.4 million foreign-born ~$90k+
Nigerian origin ~500k+ foreign-born ~$80k–90k
Iranian origin Smaller population ~$105k
Lebanese origin Smaller population ~$100k
Russian origin Smaller population ~$100k
Australian origin Smaller population ~$117k

So it then makes it a very peculiar case. Why do indians need to go to other countries and use the resources and infrastructure of non-indians, of other races in order to be successful? Why can't they do it themselves in india using their own resources and infrastructure? Why do indians rely on non-indians, on other races for their success? Why are millions of indians immigrating abroad for work and a better standard of living? Why is there a sudden global backlash against indians in foreign lands by the natives? Something is not adding up here.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

That is the same anecdotal BS you throw around. I have been to London and have friends residing there. They tell me how London has become a hellhole due to Muslim migration. No job, no education and want to live off state benefits. Have infiltrated the school systems where local and other migrant population now feel unsafe. They promote conversions and such.

The reason I don't want to stick to that narrative is because that's my experience which can be n=1. Data - well that cuts through BS. And either you want to debate or not. You can always have a view - world begs to differ but you never define the "world" and scoot away. What a waste of time...

So then why do indians go to Muslim Gulf Arab countries looking for work?????????...........................

 

[samsite84]

We have 24 shops around the M25 and lived in the UK all my life.
I know it hurts knowing your brethren are polluting the UK. No need to go off topic and talk about Pakistan - its really not the topic.
Migrants arent entitled to benefits.
Begging Indians have ruined the UK - especially London. Now back to the pakora stand and continue selling.

As I showed in data, Indians earn above median in UK and highest in US so they can't be hurting and evidently contribute most to these economies. Bring me data that says otherwise.

On a side note, nobody cares if you have 25 shops or own half of London. Stick to the topic and bring valid arguments vs trust me bro because I've lived here. Got it?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

As I showed in data, Indians earn above median in UK and highest in US so they can't be hurting and evidently contribute most to these economies. Bring me data that says otherwise.

On a side note, nobody cares if you have 25 shops or own half of London. Stick to the topic and bring valid arguments vs trust me bro because I've lived here. Got it?

You're right. They contribute the most to the american and british economy. Without indian financial contribution and economic clout, the uk and america would collapse............................


PS ALL your figures mean is that the brightest and the best of over 1.5 billion indians go to the west and other nations to have a better standard of living. Nothing more.

 

[samsite84]

So it then makes it a very peculiar case. Why do indians need to go to other countries and use the resources and infrastructure of non-indians, of other races in order to be successful? Why can't they do it themselves in india using their own resources and infrastructure? Why do indians rely on non-indians, on other races for their success? Why are millions of indians immigrating abroad for work and a better standard of living? Why is there a sudden global backlash against indians in foreign lands by the natives? Something is not adding up here.

This is a fallacy. Individuals act for their own benefit first and then for the benefit of the state - in most cases I must add. I moved to US because I can earn more from my skills and also be "nearer" to decision center/power center. Migration can be under duress but not all migration is such. Also, it is up to the individual what they do after migrating - how they upskill, nurture family, contribute to society etc. Data - pure data - shows Indians contributing massively to economies.

 

[Musings]

As I showed in data, Indians earn above median in UK and highest in US so they can't be hurting and evidently contribute most to these economies. Bring me data that says otherwise.

On a side note, nobody cares if you have 25 shops or own half of London. Stick to the topic and bring valid arguments vs trust me bro because I've lived here. Got it?

The shops were brought in to show that i speak from personal experience. Indians saturating indeed with dodgy made up CVs applying to the shops for work. One job vacancy in Amersham bro - 224 applicants - 213 Indian not qualified random CVs - imagine the job admin had to sieve through looking for genuine applicants.
Those that are here have been conned out of their savings and when they get here realize the con that has taken place............

 

[samsite84]

You're right. They contribute the most to the american and british economy. Without indian financial contribution and economic clout, the uk and america would collapse............................


PS ALL your figures mean is that the brightest and the best of over 1.5 billion indians go to the west and other nations to have a better standard of living. Nothing more.

Sure - and if figures mean brightest go, then they are not hurting the foreign economies - which is the premise of the thread.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This is a fallacy. Individuals act for their own benefit first and then for the benefit of the state - in most cases I must add. I moved to US because I can earn more from my skills and also be "nearer" to decision center/power center. Migration can be under duress but not all migration is such. Also, it is up to the individual what they do after migrating - how they upskill, nurture family, contribute to society etc. Data - pure data - shows Indians contributing massively to economies.

So why did you need to go to america if india is such a wonderful place and indians are so good? What are the benefits of leaving glorious india and going to america? Why was it in your best interest to go there in the first place of india was so great? You are not making sense and what you say is adding up.

 

[samsite84]

The shops were brought in to show that i speak from personal experience. Indians saturating indeed with dodgy made up CVs applying to the shops for work. One job vacancy in Amersham bro - 224 applicants - 213 Indian not qualified random CVs - imagine the job admin had to sieve through looking for genuine applicants.
Those that are here have been conned out of their savings and when they get here realize the con that has taken place............

Again your experience is n=1 buddy. Yes you are in pain/troubled, doesn't mean entire population see it that way. Find us data so we can unequivocally confirm or deny the hypothesis that Indian migration is hurting societies more than helping...