Taliban Wants To Build Afghanistan’s Air Defenses With Russia’s Help

[PashtunAfghan]

They are already listening to the advice of their friendly brotherly country india and learning from their expertise. Not a single "friendly" country he mentioned in his post gives two hoots about the sad state of common afghan.

He mentioned Russia (which in the past has invaded, raped and destroyed afghanistan), Iran (which has treated afghan refugees like vermin and will support only one particular school of thought), india (these idiots do not even realize that india is not a friend of Muslims in india but somehow it is their friend). I understand why he has problems mentioning Pakistan (which by the way has done far more than all the countries combined in the region for them), but I don't understand why he skipped China.

There are no friends in politics, just common interests and right now Afghanistan's and Pakistan's interests do not align hence can't call Pakistan friendly.
If communist athiest China can be Pakistan's brother and if Pakistan can create jihadi groups for western interests in the region and do their budding, why can't Afghanistan do the same?

 

[Watandar]

11 pages of discussion on likely fake news!

 

[Aryan_B]

Well there are many blue/green eyed afghans sired by first Russians so wouldnt be surprised if Russians want to help their illegitimate children

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

11 pages of discussion on likely fake news!

Its not fake news

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Russia will reportedly service Afghanistan's existing Russian origin military equipment and provide intelligence and personnel training to the Taliban.

 

[Corax]

Religion is a means to an end. It's the only thing that can unite all the different ethnic groups of Afghanistan. Same as Shia Islam is used by Iran to project power in the middle east. We know this game too well

For you, that's the only means you have.

 

[Corax]

There are no friends in politics, just common interests and right now Afghanistan's and Pakistan's interests do not align hence can't call Pakistan friendly.
If communist athiest China can be Pakistan's brother and if Pakistan can create jihadi groups for western interests in the region and do their budding, why can't Afghanistan do the same?

And what would be Afghanistan's interest under the Taliban? Create a caliphate across Afghanistan and Pakistan through the barrel of a gun, and along the way murder innocent fellow Muslim women and children, suicide bombers in mosques?

 

[PashtunAfghan]

And what would be Afghanistan's interest under the Taliban? Create a caliphate across Afghanistan and Pakistan through the barrel of a gun, and along the way murder innocent fellow Muslim women and children, suicide bombers in mosques?

If Pakistani establishment can keep Pakistan united through the barrel of the gun and military dictatorship disguised as "democracy". Then Taliban who represent a major section of Afghan society can also enforce their will on Afghanistan.
What's important is Power and controlling the region thus your own destiny. Caliphate seems like a good concept as any to gain power so why not.
Unfortunately innocent people die in wars, power struggles, if the world powers and others don't care, isn't it abit hypocritical to ask others?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Alert : During this talk , Ajeet Dovel was in Moscow too.

India will provide the finances , Russia will provide the MANPADs and TTP/ BLA/ Afghan Taliban will use it against us. Russian might want to settle the score with Pakistan when their jets and gunships were targetted by Stinger manpads provided by Americans via Pakistan.

our main concern is the Taliban and then TTP, BLA getting their hands on the MANPADs.
that is the real risk. not an iteration of medium to long range SAM batteries.

any other bigger military equipment both static or mobile can l be located and destroyed by PAFmuch easier before its deployed , even if Afghan Taliban manage to complete all the training of maintaining operating and servicing these systems in record time.

Afghan Taliban would definately pass these MANPADs to BLA and TTP. they have decided to fight Pakistan for the sake of TTP what would prevent them from arming them and smuggling these weapons into Pakistan.
this is the time the establishment really needs to make peace with PTI. So that Taliban cant use the enemy of my ememy (Pakistan military'srmy's enemy) is my friend.

just before a big tragedy at the scale of airbase attacks and shooting down of passenger, cargo or military fighter planes takes place inside Pakistan within KPK, the extremist elements within PTI need to be distanced from Taliban and some sort of face saving deal needs to be made with Imran Khan.

India and Afghan Taliban are banking on further escalation of hostilities between PTI and establishment. And sadly both PTI rethoric and actions and establishments political persecution has only raised the hopes of Indians and Taliban that they can further use it to their advantage.

those of us who have access to KPK whatsapp groups of PTI they will know what I am talking about. we have risk of Russian kamikazi drones (better versions of current quadcopters used by TTP and Taliban against us) and MANPADs being smggled into Pakistan.

I just dread to recall this post if my fears come true. this risk of infiltration of such weapons into Pakistan can be reduced if our miltiary establishment and the PTI make peace for the sake of Pakistan. if Iran and America can talk peace then so should these two realities of Pakistan because both cant undo the other no matter how much they both try at the expense of Pakistan which pleases Indians and Afghans.

 

[Dalit]

The real problem is:

This is just an analytical and predictive article. People here keep using this "foundation" for associative analysis, yet no one questions the article's authenticity, no one questions the author's true motives. And this "foundation" itself doesn't currently exist.

Our administrators and moderators are also deeply involved in this discussion.

This is the real issue.

If one day an article appears saying "India Wants To Build a Certain Weapon System With China's Help," will this forum start discussing whether Pakistan should attack China, or whether Pakistan should support Taiwanese independence, instead of questioning why this article even exists?

You have no understanding of the conflict between Pakistan and Afghanistan. This is a territorial dispute. It is better that you don't post questions in this topic.

Pakistan knows how to deal with Afghanistan. It will deal with Afghanistan and the world will know.

 

[Dalit]

India will provide the finances , Russia will provide the MANPADs and TTP/ BLA/ Afghan Taliban will use it against us. Russian might want to settle the score with Pakistan when their jets and gunships were targetted by Stinger manpads provided by Americans via Pakistan.

our main concern is the Taliban and then TTP, BLA getting their hands on the MANPADs.
that is the real risk. not an iteration of medium to long range SAM batteries.

any other bigger military equipment both static or mobile can l be located and destroyed by PAFmuch easier before its deployed , even if Afghan Taliban manage to complete all the training of maintaining operating and servicing these systems in record time.

Afghan Taliban would definately pass these MANPADs to BLA and TTP. they have decided to fight Pakistan for the sake of TTP what would prevent them from arming them and smuggling these weapons into Pakistan.
this is the time the establishment really needs to make peace with PTI. So that Taliban cant use the enemy of my ememy (Pakistan military'srmy's enemy) is my friend.

just before a big tragedy at the scale of airbase attacks and shooting down of passenger, cargo or military fighter planes takes place inside Pakistan within KPK, the extremist elements within PTI need to be distanced from Taliban and some sort of face saving deal needs to be made with Imran Khan.

India and Afghan Taliban are banking on further escalation of hostilities between PTI and establishment. And sadly both PTI rethoric and actions and establishments political persecution has only raised the hopes of Indians and Taliban that they can further use it to their advantage.

those of us who have access to KPK whatsapp groups of PTI they will know what I am talking about. we have risk of Russian kamikazi drones (better versions of current quadcopters used by TTP and Taliban against us) and MANPADs being smggled into Pakistan.

I just dread to recall this post if my fears come true. this risk of infiltration of such weapons into Pakistan can be reduced if our miltiary establishment and the PTI make peace for the sake of Pakistan. if Iran and America can talk peace then so should these two realities of Pakistan because both cant undo the other no matter how much they both try at the expense of Pakistan which pleases Indians and Afghans.

There is only one proper way of dealing with Afghanistan and that is to take the fight within their borders. Pakistan is wasting time.

 

[Dalit]

Russia will reportedly service Afghanistan's existing Russian origin military equipment and provide intelligence and personnel training to the Taliban.

Pakistan should take these out when the time is right. Attack these assets and smoke them.

 

[Dalit]

Well there are many blue/green eyed afghans sired by first Russians so wouldnt be surprised if Russians want to help their illegitimate children

These Afghans are Commies. They were indeed once an ally of the Communist Russians. The Taliban are no different.

 

[Dalit]

There are no friends in politics, just common interests and right now Afghanistan's and Pakistan's interests do not align hence can't call Pakistan friendly.
If communist athiest China can be Pakistan's brother and if Pakistan can create jihadi groups for western interests in the region and do their budding, why can't Afghanistan do the same?

You absolutely do that, but also find out the cost associated with this move.

 

[PK781]

India will provide the finances , Russia will provide the MANPADs and TTP/ BLA/ Afghan Taliban will use it against us. Russian might want to settle the score with Pakistan when their jets and gunships were targetted by Stinger manpads provided by Americans via Pakistan.

our main concern is the Taliban and then TTP, BLA getting their hands on the MANPADs.
that is the real risk. not an iteration of medium to long range SAM batteries.

any other bigger military equipment both static or mobile can l be located and destroyed by PAFmuch easier before its deployed , even if Afghan Taliban manage to complete all the training of maintaining operating and servicing these systems in record time.

Afghan Taliban would definately pass these MANPADs to BLA and TTP. they have decided to fight Pakistan for the sake of TTP what would prevent them from arming them and smuggling these weapons into Pakistan.
this is the time the establishment really needs to make peace with PTI. So that Taliban cant use the enemy of my ememy (Pakistan military'srmy's enemy) is my friend.

just before a big tragedy at the scale of airbase attacks and shooting down of passenger, cargo or military fighter planes takes place inside Pakistan within KPK, the extremist elements within PTI need to be distanced from Taliban and some sort of face saving deal needs to be made with Imran Khan.

India and Afghan Taliban are banking on further escalation of hostilities between PTI and establishment. And sadly both PTI rethoric and actions and establishments political persecution has only raised the hopes of Indians and Taliban that they can further use it to their advantage.

those of us who have access to KPK whatsapp groups of PTI they will know what I am talking about. we have risk of Russian kamikazi drones (better versions of current quadcopters used by TTP and Taliban against us) and MANPADs being smggled into Pakistan.

I just dread to recall this post if my fears come true. this risk of infiltration of such weapons into Pakistan can be reduced if our miltiary establishment and the PTI make peace for the sake of Pakistan. if Iran and America can talk peace then so should these two realities of Pakistan because both cant undo the other no matter how much they both try at the expense of Pakistan which pleases Indians and Afghans.

Let me spell it out for everyone:

WAR is coming to Pakistan from 2-3 fronts whether we like it or not. Afg/India nexus alongwith Israeli support and other players.
Pak estb can try its best to close its eyes and pretend its not coming......but sooner or later it will have to fight the final war for existence.
This can be a territorial as well as a fight over Access to Water. Take your pick.

When u don't finish the job of eliminating the enemy, this is bound to happen and WAR will be forced upon you again and again. Time is fast approaching to getting forced to use all those weapons that exist......unko sambhal ke rakhna ka waqt gya, ab istimal kerne honge.......no other choice.

question remains, how long will the mil-estb keep ignoring this??