Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Hassan Al-Somal said:
This is a good time for Iran to bargain "Israeli" withdrawal from Southern Lebanon. Hezbollah's guns can't remain silent as long as "Israel" maintains military presence in Southern Lebanon.

Hopefully, Iran can also bring Gaza into the negotiation. Trump needs to be pressured to stop the current genocide in Gaza. Only Iran and Hezbollah are in a position to influence the situation.
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Very ambitious, not sure southern Lebanon (forget Gaza) can be brought into the equation.
 
unconventional said:
One thing we need to be cognizant of.

Iran’s redline for Israel was Beirut/Dahiya, not all of Lebanon (including southern Lebanon). There were plenty of attacks by Israel, and Israeli incursions into southern Lebanon, without eliciting a response from the Iranians.

Even Trump’s previous statement was about him asking Netanyahu not to attack Beirut.

So this might (or might not) be a mistake on Iran’s part. Maybe they feel confident that Hezbollah and their FPV drones can inflict serious damage on the Israelis and increase costs on them; so they don’t need to get directly involved.

I’m not so sure about that: while think Israel has incurred a big cost in southern Lebanon, Southern Lebanon (not Hezbollah necessarily) has incurred a far greater cost from Israeli attacks.

It will be humiliating for Israel to not directly attack Iran after this, but they can still keep the heat up (or expand) in southern Lebanon and not get the Iranians involved.
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Would love to get the Iranian perspective on this post.
 
Hassan Al-Somal said:
This is a good time for Iran to bargain "Israeli" withdrawal from Southern Lebanon. Hezbollah's guns can't remain silent as long as "Israel" maintains military presence in Southern Lebanon.
Hopefully, Iran can also bring Gaza into the negotiation. Trump needs to be pressured to stop the current genocide in Gaza. Only Iran and Hezbollah are in a position to influence the situation.
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About two months ago, when the Islamabad Talks were happening, a credible Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir said that all issues were settled except for Lebanon. Israelis wanted to control south Lebanon and Iranians wouldn't allow that.
Two months later, the equation stands. Netanyahu wants the land--the fertile land of southern Lebanon and its water. This war hinges on that as simple as that: A war for resources. Like all human wars.
 
This is what BBC was reporting, a full week of strikes!!!

This is the beginning of a full week of continuous strikes,' IRGC sayspublished at 20:33 7 June
20:33 7 JuneBreaking​

Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) says "this operation is not a passing event, but rather the beginning of a full week of continuous strikes".
In a statement it adds: "Waves of missiles and drones will continue to be launched around the clock for the next seven days until the enemy is deterred and ceases its crimes."
"Any targeting of Iranian territory will be met with a devastating and overwhelming response beyond all expectation," it adds.

 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Technically, he is not wrong. Interceptions rates are being reported as high as 90%. You can use your favorite search engine.

It's the 10% that is getting
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So only 10% forced the US and the Baal worshipping demons to seek a ceasefire?
That makes absolutely no sense to me.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Technically, he is not wrong. Interceptions rates are being reported as high as 90%. You can use your favorite search engine.

It's the 10% that is getting through.
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Yes, but their method of calculation is based on the claim that most of the missiles that were not intercepted were not even meant to be intercepted because they were not going to hit critical residential or military areas. That's how they come up with the 90% rate of interception.

If you ignore that and assume that all missiles were going to hit something of value, then that interception rate drops to about half or even less.
 
ShapurII said:
Yes, but their method of calculation is based on the claim that most of the missiles that were not intercepted were not even meant to be intercepted because they were not going to hit critical residential or military areas. That's how they come up with the 90% rate of interception.

If you ignore that and assume that all missiles were going to hit something of value, then that interception rate drops to about half or even less.
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That is a fair counter-arguement.
 
Meengla said:
About two months ago, when the Islamabad Talks were happening, a credible Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir said that all issues were settled except for Lebanon. Israelis wanted to control south Lebanon and Iranians wouldn't allow that.
Two months later, the equation stands. Netanyahu wants the land--the fertile land of southern Lebanon and its water. This war hinges on that as simple as that: A war for resources. Like all human wars.
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Trump from his part wants the fighting between "Israel" and Hezbollah stopped without addressing the root cause: "Israel's" military presence in Southern Lebanon.

He also wants the Lebanon's govt and army to disarm Hezbollah. He promised the US will militarily support them when they undertake this disarmament endeavor. In other words, he wants a civil war in Lebanon - with the US backing Christian/Druze/Sunni against Lebanese Shia.

So, in any way you look at it, Trump is facilitating "Israel's" territorial ambitions in Southern Lebanon. And this is why Trump, "Israel", and the Lebanese govt want to separate the Hezbollah file from the current negotiations with Iran. Alhamdulillaah, the Iranian govt refused to accept this demand.
 
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