Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Every time there is escalation American planes and helicopters randomly start crashing

It’s too random if you’re asking me
 
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Basically confirmation, Israel is low on munitions required to collapse Iran’s missile tunnels.
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Iran really needs to improve its AD even though our performances have been quite decent if we consider the embargo
 
Immortals said:
I don’t think a deal is agreed to till after the World Cup and 4th of July. It is in Iran’s interest to force the U.S. and the West to feel the oil bite and that can only happen with time. The pain won’t begin to be felt till July. Thus favorable terms for Iran will not be reached till then. Thus it makes sense to stall the negotiations for another 4-6 weeks. I could be wrong and a breakthru happens by end of month. But I doubt it.

The one major mistake Iran made during the war was not closing the Bab Al Mandeb. The Houthi’s wasted too much of their capability in 2023/2024 and fighting a war with the U.S. if the Bab Al Mandeb was closed it would be another 5M barrel a day that wouldn’t escape from the Saudi Arabia Red Sea port or be forced to re-route thru the Suez Canal. This would speed up the oil reserve draw and accelerate the timeline for the West to feel economic pain.
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The problem is that a lot of oil is now passing the strait

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Israel is continuing to pound southern Lebanon, let’s see if Iran stays true to its word. If it doesn’t, Israel will feel further emboldened.

It would mean Iran’s strikes against Israel have not deterred them from attacking southern Lebanon.
 
VCheng said:
The point is very serious, IF you can comprehend it:

As long as Iran keeps vowing "Death to America!" do you think it will help the American people be more or less sympathetic to what Iran wants USA to do and stop supporting Israel?

All it does is help Israel convince the American people that it is their friend who stands between those shouting "Death to USA!" and the people here, and forces USA to do everything it can to prevent Iran from exercising its rights as a sovereign nation to get nuclear technology.

Is that too hard for you to understand?

THAT IS MY POINT, LIKE IT OR NOT. At least THINK ABOUT IT!
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It is a fair point being made on the face of it.

But the Iranian people did not utter such words in a vacuum, nor did their specific loathing for the American republic arise randomly. They don't say "Death to Japan" because Japan wasn't the nation that overthrew their democratically elected government under Mossadegh. Hundreds of Iranians died during Operation Ajax.

For me, the real question is why do Iranians only chant against USA and Israel, when Britain was equally neck deep in the overthrow of Mossadegh and the installation of British Petroleum as part of a western monopoly in Shah era Iran?
 
From browsing lots of channels yesterday, it seems very likely Americans did not cooperate with Israel on the attacks on Iran yesterday and didn't even intervene on behalf of Israel to counter Iran. Trump's warning to Israel that they would be 'alone' sounds like a repeat of several US Presidents who finally put their foot down to try to reign in Israel.
We must not ignore that the Americans want out and Netanyahu's goals are significantly different from America's.
 
Master Chief said:
For me, the real question is why do Iranians only chant against USA and Israel, when Britain was equally neck deep in the overthrow of Mossadegh and the installation of British Petroleum as part of a western monopoly in Shah era Iran?
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There are often anti-British chants, and there is long-standing suspicion and resentment (particulary in the seminaries).
 
Interesting video. While of this video talks about the alleged / rumored Pakistan-Iran leadership phone call about Iran testing a nuke, the head of the Iranian Quds force is hinting toward deeper cooperation with various regional Iranian allies to counter Israel. The conflict needs to be taken to Israel's borders and Lebanon can't be the only one bearing the weight for that.

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Aziqbal said:
Every time there is escalation American planes and helicopters randomly start crashing

It’s too random if you’re asking me
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It's not random This is very reason they're afraid to lose more and what they tried in Iranian territory last time to rescue pilot and try to steal uranium that was the turning point for Americans and this very reason gave Iranian a very great courage that they are winning
 
Persian Gulf said:
The problem is that a lot of oil is now passing the strait

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Curious if these ships are running the Iranian blockade or paying the toll and clearing. If they are running dark seems the former most likely.
 
More delegations from US D.O.W travelling to CENTCOM AOR:
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Royal Airforce in holding pattern near Akrotiri - likely providing refueling capability to RAF 903 Expeditionary Wing currently engaged in Anti-Piracy/A2AD and Counter Insurgency Operations.
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A further RAF refuller is headed to Akrotiri likely to rotate out the two refullers that returned to the UK last week.
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USAF Artemis II Aircraft Callsign Brio66 continues to conduct iSTAR patrol over med. This is likely to provide battle space awareness for the US Fleet positioned in the region
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USMC Allied mobility Command C17 headed towards EUCOM AOR from US.
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