Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Best not to waste time on every tom dick and harry who puts up a YouTube video , regardless of their credentials. 99% of such videos contain no new information or analysis, just repeating what everyone else said and chasing views.

I assume it is difficult to become a fighter jet pilot in India and must require very high intelligence but to come up with the stupid ideas like Pakistan is a 'Trojan Horse' for the Americans betrays something terribly wrong even in the highly educated Indian brains. Before the attack on Iran began, General Bakshi was saying that Pakistan was going to facilitate an American attack on Iran from Baluchistan.
WTH!
 
I assume it is difficult to become a fighter jet pilot in India and must require very high intelligence but to come up with the stupid ideas like Pakistan is a 'Trojan Horse' for the Americans betrays something terribly wrong even in the highly educated Indian brains. Before the attack on Iran began, General Bakshi was saying that Pakistan was going to facilitate an American attack on Iran from Baluchistan.
WTH!
I see Military people, including fighter pilots, as skilled labor. The same as a plumber or electrician. There is little use asking military people for their viewpoints beyond the specific task they have been trained to do.
 
It is not a popular opinion in this forum to say that Israel can be a good presence in the region due to its knowledge based economy and technical knowhow but for that they will have to become a normal state, grant the Palestinians their rights, respect the Holy Places to be internationally managed.
Removing a State is not a easy task specially a entity like Israel, we often overlook the aspect that Allah has told via Rasool Allah that what is too come so I don't think Israel is going anywhere, but for the time being they can hold peace, the grand creators plans will work and will always take precedent over whatever we humans wants regardless of how our hearts cry for all the innocent death in the region.
 
Just let this sink in: the terms are not known yet.
I was not referring to the terms on paper, but the fact the US couldn't subjugate or make Iran surrender. Whatever has been agreed has been on an equal party basis not one side superior than the other as you would see with a victor and loser.
 
Whatever has been agreed has been on an equal party basis

That can only be judged once what has been agreed upon is made known, and not before.

You may be right, but it is still premature to conclude that as of yet.
 
I assume it is difficult to become a fighter jet pilot in India and must require very high intelligence but to come up with the stupid ideas like Pakistan is a 'Trojan Horse' for the Americans betrays something terribly wrong even in the highly educated Indian brains. Before the attack on Iran began, General Bakshi was saying that Pakistan was going to facilitate an American attack on Iran from Baluchistan.
WTH!
Yes. It's almost as if they are projecting their own wildest dreams onto others. India genuinely wants to be a Trojan something or the other.
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Just let this sink in: the terms are not known yet.
What is known is that Trump is desperate for a ‘deal’ while the Iranian’s are quite happy to drag it out and humiliate him some more. Also known is that Trumps biggest ‘victory’ from this ‘deal’ will be that he opened the Hormuz, which was open before he started ie achieved jack.
Given that the US has clearly no appetite for further military action, will they ever do that again given the Hormuz, GCC implications which are now well established? Based on this and the fact that so many credible / independent military analysts are concluding that the US lost, I would not suggest that this is a deal of equals. Iran has the upper hand and the US is desperate for a face saving off ramp. No way on earth Trump would have started this if he’d got enough brains to know he’d end up where he is today.
 
Israel´s Knesset is going nuts , even many of Netanyahus allies are starting to throw him under the Bus , blame him for "Israels official first war loss since its creation" (well they kinda lost their last confrontation with Iran too, but managed to declare it a "Stalemate" in official listings, this time they cant)

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Lol those hardcore US zionists are funny, those mark levin types, they always attacked congress/senate for trying to Limit Trump´s War powers,

now they beg to the same congress/senate to stop "Iran-US peace deal" from Trump.
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Mark Levin / FOX used to attack anyone "Trust the President!" LoL !
 
What is known is that Trump is desperate for a ‘deal’ while the Iranian’s are quite happy to drag it out and humiliate him some more. Also known is that Trumps biggest ‘victory’ from this ‘deal’ will be that he opened the Hormuz, which was open before he started ie achieved jack.
Given that the US has clearly no appetite for further military action, will they ever do that again given the Hormuz, GCC implications which are now well established? Based on this and the fact that so many credible / independent military analysts are concluding that the US lost, I would not suggest that this is a deal of equals. Iran has the upper hand and the US is desperate for a face saving off ramp. No way on earth Trump would have started this if he’d got enough brains to know he’d end up where he is today.

You are entitled to your views, but right now, I would wait to form an opinion until all the terms are made known.
 
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Well well well. It seems Trump cannot even get Setanyahu to come to the table as expected.

Good news, US and EU will side step and ask him to deal with it and GCC and rest will grab popcorn.
 
Israel´s Knesset is going nuts , even many of Netanyahus allies are starting to throw him under the Bus , blame him for "Israels official first war loss since its creation" (well they kinda lost their last confrontation with Iran too, but managed to declare it a "Stalemate" in official listings, this time they cant)

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Lol those hardcore US zionists are funny, those mark levin types, they always attacked congress/senate for trying to Limit Trump´s War powers,

now they beg to the same congress/senate to stop "Iran-US peace deal" from Trump.
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Mark Levin / FOX used to attack anyone "Trust the President!" LoL !

Pentagon forced this deal, will open another thread, how this war help Russia and China analyze the US navel weaknesses by keeping eye on South China fleet and in case of Taiwan standoff.
 
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