Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

It’s the ultimate guarantor that a nation doesn’t get bombed and invaded.

Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Lybia, and Iran did not have nukes and were attacked/occupied/dismembered.

Then you have Israel, North Korea, and Pakistan. Iran pulled its punches on Israel initially because of the nuclear umbrella. Even Egypt and Syria did the same in the 1973 war.
Pakistan’s NASR tactical nuke doctrine made India’s cold start doctrine obsolete overnight (and this was based off U.S. doctrine against a massive Soviet force during the Cold War in Germany).
North Korea is sitting pretty where virtually South Korea, Japan, and the U.S. just pretend it doesn’t exist.

You’re too hyped up with whatever Iran just accomplished to disregard such a powerful weapon that the U.S. has tried multiple ways to get Iran to give up its enrichment. If it wasn’t an ultimate insurance policy then why did the US literally gone to war to make sure hostile countries never achieve this threshold.
No one would’ve think twice about attacking Iran had Iran achieved a successful nuke program. Just a silly thing to discount such a powerful weapons that provides so much upside.



Typical Indian mentality - greatly underestimates everyone else and overestimate itself.
Pakistans nukes aren’t for display only. They won’t be used the first day as its conventional capabilities are there to wage an intense war. It’s military operational ready with Chinese supply chain at its disposal. In case of impending defeat, those nukes will be used (hopefully on areas with majority Hindu majority across India). We are headed. Continue with your bob n vagene thinking that the Pakistan didn’t use its nukes on day 1 on last years conflict as some form of silver bullet Rajesh found against Pakistans very potent nuclear doctrine. It will be the biggest FAFO moment in the worlds history.
Russia gets attacked daily bro.

More than 100k Russians are dead and half a million injured and Russian economy's taken a $2 trillion hit so far. 4 years and counting Russia can't win no?

Iran however won it in 40 days.

That DPRK has no military. It'll get punk'd in under 2 minutes if these Zio's decide to go after it, like they recently tried doing to Iran.
 
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...(continue)... Israel's contribution? Minimal, then almost nothing. They left the US to fight alone and used the war to distract from people noticing that they were illegally taking more of Lebanon's land.

Israel now occupies 770 square miles of Lebanon. Nearly one-fifth of the country. And they have announced they're not giving it back.

They wanted the war with Iran. They didn't fight it. They used it as a cover to invade Lebanon. And now they're angry the war with Iran is ending.

What do you think about that?
 
LOL. Let us wait to see the terms of the deal first.
Why whatever happened to ‘only total surrender’ and taking Iran’s oil? Now reduced to slating demonic Israeli pals and ‘wait to see terms’ eh lol. How the mighty fall.
 
Russia gets attacked daily bro.

More than 100k Russians are dead and half a million injured and Russian economy's taken a $2 trillion hit so far. 4 years and counting Russia can't win no?

Iran however won it in 40 days.

That DPRK has no military. It'll get punk'd in under 2 minutes if these Zio's decide to go after it, like they recently tried doing to Iran.

Agreed Iran has demonstrated insane capabilities

I always knocked them for not building an Air Force

Now everyone knows why
 
Do you honestly believe the DPRK can fight off an attack like the one these Zios mounted on Iran? or are you in a joking mood today?
I believe in facts.

Facts are Kim Jong is alive, Khamenei dead, and Maduro jailed.

War in North Korea was near in 2017.

They developed hydrogen bomb and finally USA surrendered.

Joking mood is talk about nukes like something without importance in a defense forum.

Nukes explains the structure of world power last 80 years.
 
Agreed Iran has demonstrated insane capabilities
I always knocked them for not building an Air Force
Now everyone knows why

Glad you understand now. Building an Air Force would have been a colossal waste of money for Iran.
 
Glad you understand now. Building an Air Force would have been a colossal waste of money for Iran.

And actually it was the most damaged part of Irans military branches and the least effective

The most effective was iron ballistic missiles forces
 
I heard and read that between a third and half the air to ground campaign was made by israeli fighters. Not to speak of the lebanon one.
Is it minimal ?

And how many Israeli jets were shot down compared with the American jets and American drones? How many Israelis died attacking Iran?
Israel may have carried out the stand off attacks from the air but they were supplied by the Americans, they stayed safe distance from Iran, and they were even using the refuelling by the Americans. So, yes, in comparison, Israel used 'minimal' contribution.

As to Lebanon: It was a war to grab land and for that Israelis are willing to pay some price.
 
I believe in facts.

Facts are Kim Jong is alive, Khamenei dead, and Maduro jailed.

War in North Korea was near in 2017.

They developed hydrogen bomb and finally USA surrendered.

Joking mood is talk about nukes like something without importance in a defense forum.

Nukes explains the structure of world power last 80 years.
Fat Kims just a $4 billion dolla punk. He'll get taken out in no time and then Russia or China will have to get involved to save that country.

DPRK don't got a military.

Look at the performance of the Russian military in Ukraine.

Get real man.

Da fuqq did 6000 nukes do for Russia in Ukraine?
 
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Agreed Iran has demonstrated insane capabilities

I always knocked them for not building an Air Force

Now everyone knows why
Bhai if the Iranians didn't help out these busted ass Russians with drones/ missiles and sanction beating networks/ supply chains n whatnot..........Russians would've lost a million dead by now in Ukraine.

Their entire military has been exposed as junk!
 
And actually it was the most damaged part of Irans military branches and the least effective
The most effective was iron ballistic missiles forces

Yes, the Iranian missiles were the best bang for the buck!
An Airforce in modern warfare is not much good without much else on the ground and in the sky/orbit in the mix, along with a lot of other resources, training, and constant preparedness. The Indian Airforce is modern and well supplied but they still couldn't stood up to the Pakistani Airforce due to some some sophisticated advantages (and perhaps Chinese help) the Pakistanis had during the May 2025 conflict with India. India's Pravin Swaheny talks about those things.

Also, the Pakistan-India war theater is very different from Iran's. Pakistan faces an immediate neighbor with a long border and threats are everywhere. In case of Iran, no country dares launch a ground invasion.
 
Only poor/ lower caste people believe nowadays that nukes are the ultimate answer to mankind's political dramay/ third world idiocy/ shit-hole existence and whatnot.

Reality is that using nukes (today).......means suicide.


You do realize that self-sacrifice/suicide is as old as humanity itself?.. Human stupidity may be limitless, but so is man's willingness to die or kill for a cause...

From a purely materialist perspective, even Karbala could be dismissed as collective suicide. Yet history remembers it very differently...

The mistake is assuming that once the cost becomes high enough, humans will always choose survival. History says otherwise...
 
If Israel was successfully deploying antagonistic chanting as a means to recruit American public opinion against Iran, we would not be seeing any of these trends that are illustrated above.

It would a mistake to confuse the unpopularity of the war itself (which it is) with reduced support for Israel (which is only the soup du jour in a few educational institutions already growing cold), and from there it remains quite a stretch to imagine it somehow means increased support for a theocratic Iran (of which there is precious little).

The social media echo chamber amplification over this issue is probably ten times more than that of the claimed popularity of IK.

This forum is part of that echo chamber parade over this topic.
 

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