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[ety]

So you call it as south sea for thousands of years and suddenly you love the new name because it fits your narrative. What’s about the Philippines sea, you like it?

Only Filipino themselves call the Philippines Sea. All the rest of the world call it South China Sea, we are sure OK with that, as the name rightly implies the sea is located in the direction of South China.

 

[Viet]

Only Filipino themselves call the Philippines Sea. All the rest of the world call it South China Sea, we are sure OK with that, as the name rightly implies the sea is located in the direction of South China.

No country in the world recognizes China’s claim. The name just implies the location of the sea like here in Europe the English Channel. The Vietnamese never say “South China sea”.
worthless discussion
hot air

 

[ety]

No country in the world recognizes China’s claim. The name just implies the location of the sea here like in Europe the English Channel.
worthless discussion.

Lol, When China made the official modern claim after WW II. the US, USSR, European or Asian countries including your Vietnam didn't have any objection. As a matter fact, the US navy at the time actually helped China to claim those islands by leasing some of their navy ships to China to patrol and reoccupy those islands from former Japanese army stations. And, does any country in the world recognize your Vietnam's ludicrous claims of SCS at all, lol ?

 

[Viet]

Lol, When China made the official modern claim after WW II. the US, USSR, European or Asian countries including your Vietnam didn't have any objection. As a matter fact, the US navy at the time actually helped China to claim those islands by leasing some of their navy ships to China to patrol and reoccupy those islands from Japanese navy. And, does any country in the world recognize your Vietnam's ludicrous claims of SCS at all, lol ?

Vietnam claims Eez, never claims the entire sea, unlike greedy CCP. This greed will bring chaos, war and destruction into the region. But since you love the international community too much, then you must love the international ruling.

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[Viet]

After the visit of the army chief to Moscow, it seems new weapons systems are coming either from Russia or make by Vietnam

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[ety]

Vietnam never claims the entire sea, unlike greedy CCP. This greed will bring chaos, war and destruction into the region. But since you love the international community too much, then you must love the international ruling.

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Good for her, just hope she will be a fair, just and competent international judge. Not like the Filipinos decade back spent money to hire some pseudo judges to rule in favor of Filipin in some arbitration of disputes in SCS, what a joke and they called it "international court", lol. Little Vietnam is greedy enough, you are making more than 70% of SCS right up to China's coast lines.

 

[Viet]

Good for her, just hope she will be a fair, just and competent international judge. Not like the Filipinos decade back spent money to hire some pseudo judges to rule in favor of Filipin in some arbitration of disputes in SCS, what a joke and they called it "international court", lol. Little Vietnam is greedy enough, you are making more than 70% of SCS right up to China's coast lines.

I don’t know where you get this 70 percent. In the common sea of Tonkin it is 50:50 Vietnam and China.

 

[Shui]

Remember, you were the first to bring any military hardware into the conversation, not me. You initiated the conversation by taking a shot at us for not being prepared for a possible military conflict with you guys, since we don't have any Su-57s. I countered your point regarding our readiness with my list of our equipment even when we don't have the Su57. You didn't like what I said, so you stated that we don't have any BVR capabilities. I simply bring up the fact that when we faced the world's premier air force in the 60's, we had zero BVR capability like we have now (R-27, R-77) and still achieved the greatest number of fighter aces that no other air force can even come up close when facing the American or even a mid-tier power. You brought up AEW and EW and acted like they were some Chinese inventions that we have never faced in actual combat. I simply stated the fact that AEW were deployed during aerial combat over the sky of North Viet Nam for sports to aid the American's "BVR" capabilities. You also brought up EW like some super Chinese invention. Mind you, I simply stated the fact that no country besides Viet Nam possesses the kind of knowledge, experience, and combat performance overcoming massive EW attacks to shoot down several thousand fixed-wing American jets including B-52 bombers. I simply give you facts, not chest thumping. You call someone not suitable to talk about defense-related matters, while you possess zero knowledge about the history of BVR fight, AEW, EW and you think this kind of stuff is brand new but sorry to burst your bubble, you're talking to a country that has the most combat experience and effectiveness in these fields and the catch of all is going up against a superpower air force. You top it off by comparing the U.S to Cuba like China is with Viet Nam in term of military disparity; you're not on the level of the U.S and Viet Nam is not on the level of Cuba; it's just a simple fact that you don't grasp and still having the audacity to call someone not eligible to talk about defense-related subjects

dude, this is 2026, with current vaf assets, all of them combined doesn't stand a chance against 4.5th gen J10C or J16 let alone 600 fifth gen J20/35.

no eyes in the sky, ew supressed and blinded, no up to date bvr missiles, no aesa radar or whatsoever, yep, everyone invested in those are just wasting money, vaf can somehow miraclly shot down fifth and sixth gen with mentioned status.

 

[2ndstrike]

dude, this is 2026, with current vaf assets, all of them combined doesn't stand a chance against 4.5th gen J10C or J16 let alone 600 fifth gen J20/35.

no eyes in the sky, ew supressed and blinded, no up to date bvr missiles, no aesa radar or whatsoever, yep, everyone invested in those are just wasting money, vaf can somehow miraclly shot down fifth and sixth gen with mentioned status.

So, when are you going to launch an operation to take over our 26 outposts in the Spratlys?

 

[Viet]

So, when are you going to launch an operation to take over our 26 outposts in the Spratlys?

Xi Jinping is not as dumb as Putin, the PLA will tell him we are not going commit suicide. People should differentiate between cheap propaganda and real war. Don’t copy Trump, thinking tons of fancy weapons and trillion dollar military budget will win.

 

[Shui]

So, when are you going to launch an operation to take over our 26 outposts in the Spratlys?

you can counter me with hardware knowledge but ofc you come down to twitter lvl trolling , yeah, we indeed put Vietnam as our priority and ignored those tech race with the US on AI, Robotic, Stealth tech, naval build up etc etc.

 

[Shui]

Xi Jinping is not as dumb as Putin, the PLA will tell him we are not going commit suicide. People should differentiate between cheap propaganda and real war.

yeah, why outputting 150 stealth jets annually when spritual belief is everything , noted.

Alright guys, have a good weekend.

 

[Viet]

yeah, why outputting 150 stealth jets annually when spritual belief is everything , noted.

You need both: brain and hardware. Hardware without brain is nothing. That’s why Israel can take all Arab armies combined. As for AI, yes even AI without brain is nothing.
Don’t take me wrong, the Vietnamese take China very seriously.

 

[Shui]

You need both: brain and hardware. Hardware without brain is nothing. Even AI without brain is nothing.

You shouldnt bring up AI when ur country is not so famous in this regard either.

 

[Viet]

You shouldnt bring up AI when ur country is not so famous in this regard either.

We are still miles behind, so Europe, India, Japan and more. Only America and China lead the way. I think Vietnam needs at least 10y, the universities would catch up.