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Bro - he has an open channel and GHQ for his grievance. Mods havent got time to go through a whole conversation and are alerted when they see reports or complaints.
Mods are human and even when trying to be impartial can make errors but to start abusing members etc. Lets get back on topic bro......

So you quoted around 1% (I previously wrote 2% which is most likely false) of the post that you or another moderator deleted in the Lebanon thread, while not quoting the entire post. There was nothing even remotely "sectarian" in that quotation of yours. No mention of any sects, no attacks.

I just want to have it clear from the mouth of the horse (moderators) here. Does any type of criticism of the Iranian regime policies in the region since 1979 equal imaginary sectarianism? Or worse does criticizing the Iranian regime and applying to it the same standards applied to everyone else in the region - equal criticism of a certain Islamic sect? So by that logic we can also claim that any criticism of regime policies of Muslim country x o or y (depending on their sect) can be deemed similarly? So when I see a user criticize Arab country x or y (regime policies), I can cry to the moderators about sectarianism and the user speaking his mind freely and within the rules, (for instance if criticizing KSA's role in the Yemeni civil war), that said user will have his posts deleted, he will be silenced from the threat and not only that publicly accused of "sectarianism" with no way of defending himself?

 

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Bro

You arent happy with him or his posts - report him. Why lose the upper hand by posting abuse. Havent had chance or time to go through all the posts. I repeat - i only respond to complaints or reports..........

I have no problem with that individual. I don't know the guy. I have never attacked him unmotivated. He is the one that started attacking me for no reason by those bait posts. Previously I tried engaging with him and even wrote in Arabic to him. He never replied as I wrote.

I find it hard to believe, based on his posting history, that he is a Palestinian and if he is he is likely born in the US and very unusual for a Palestinian in terms of viewpoints.

I also find it strange that he does not display a Palestinian flag.

In any case I have no problem with him supporting the Iranian regime, hating Arabs, all Arab regimes (his right) but at least the rules should be applied equally.

If I only had an interest to troll him, I would not have replied with a long and detailed post.

However I had to address his hypocrisy and I still believe that he is not a Palestinian but that is just personal opinion and I could be wrong but it does not even matter as we are all anonymous here.

 

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Anyway let us leave this discussion aside. All I am asking for are clear rules and forum rules to be applied equally. I am all for free speech and different viewpoints as long as they are voiced in a largely informative manner. I have seen many insults aimed at Arabs, Arab countries etc. on this forum which are never dealt with. You will never see me complain about that as 1) I do not care, 2) I will only reply to such behavior if I am directly discussing/engaged with an user, 3) moderators are not able to moderate a forum 24/7 anyway and they will have their preferences no matter what they claim.

Secondly my position is that every regime and its policies can and should be criticized and discussed if needed. I have criticized KSA policies, Arab policies etc. on numerous occasions, most recently yesterday. So nobody can accuse me of anything in this regard. I am usually quite blunt in my viewpoints and speak my mind freely always trying to back it up with either factual statements or personally opinions backed up by evidence. Not everyone will agree, they don't have to and it would be strange if they did.

However I will react if I am continuously baited by the same individual, likely a false flagger, and attacked unmotivated, for no reason. In particular as the same user has never been able to have ny discussions with me. He is free to argue his points and we can have a quick exchange and discussion, civilized preferably. Whether in English or Arabic, I am fine with both.

The problem, once again, is that I have never seen him write anything remotely informative with all due respect. Other than one-liners. Never seen him write anything about internal Palestinian affairs as a supposed Palestinian. Never seen him write a single sentence in Arabic. Never seen him display any kind of depth and knowledge about Palestinian or Arab affairs. Nor does he even display a Palestinian flag on his user. All I see, 99% of the time, is pro-Iranian regime posts and nothing else. And some kind of unhealthy obsession about Arabs. Quite strange from a supposed Palestinian. That is all. I am sure that most people will agree if they think about it for more than a few seconds.

And the only reason why I am even addressing this individual in this way, is because he is the one that keeps baiting me and my person. So after all this time I have now replied to him for the first time and spoken my mind about what I think about this user. The straw that broke the camels back was his troll post/bait to me yesterday in the Lebanon thread which started this whole "thing" which quite frankly is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. But I might as well complain a bit if I am here and feel that the rules are not applied to me as they should be.

Let him argue his case and I will argue mine. No need for personal obsessions or unmotivated baiting. Unless the goal is to provoke and troll.

I don't have such goals which is why you rarely see me troll unmotivated - I would claim never.

Once again I am usually very busy in my life and logged in for the first time in 2 months yesterday. Not remotely interested in troll exchanges for the sake of it.

 

[Musings]

Anyway let us leave this discussion aside. All I am asking for are clear rules and forum rules to be applied equally. I am all for free speech and different viewpoints as long as they are voiced in a largely informative manner. I have seen many insults at Arabs, Arab countries etc. on this forum which are never dealt with. You will never see me complain about that as 1) I do not care, 2) I will only reply to such behavior if I am directly discussing/engaged with an user, 3) moderators are not able to moderate a forum 24/7 anyway.

Secondly my position is that every regime and its policies can and should be criticized and discussed if needed. I have criticized KSA policies, Arab policies etc. on numerous occasions, most recently yesterday. So nobody can accuse me of anything in this regard. I am usually quite blunt in my viewpoints and speak my mind freely always trying to back it up with either factual statements or personally opinions backed up by evidence. Not everyone will agree, they don't have to and it would be strange if they did.

However I will react if I am continuously baited by the same individual, likely a false flagger, an attacked unmotivated, for no reason. In particular as the same user has never been able to have ny discussions with me. He is free to argue his posts and we can have a quick exchange and discussion, civilized preferably. Whether in English or Arabic, I am fine with both.

Let him argue his case and I will argue mine. No need for personal obsessions or unmotivated baiting. Unless the goal is to provoke and troll.

I don't have such goals which is why you rarely see me troll unmotivated - I would claim never.

Once again I am usually very busy in my life and logged in for the first time in 2 months yesterday. Not remotely interested in troll exchanges for the sake of it.

Ive opened a private conversation - lets talk their bro

 

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Ive opened a private conversation - lets talk their bro

Nah, no need for it. I have voiced my opinions here for all to see and I prefer it this way. I don't want any preferential treatment (I doubt that I or anyone can claim that I have ever received that) nor do I even want that guy (whatever he is) to be banned or silenced. Or anyone that has attacked me before. As I already wrote to you before and other moderators. All I am asking for is that rules are replied relatively fairly (there will always be bias from moderators on any forum - you are human beings after all - not AI agents or robots - yet) and If I am accused of x or y, I would like to have the opportunity to defend myself (at least) rather than being thread banned or silenced.

I am not sure for how long I cannot write in the Lebanon thread (still don't get the reason for it after this discussion and seeing the content of my 2 posts) but in any case this thread has ZERO Lebanese participants (those that really matter) and most users are not posting about the solutions for the crisis in Lebanon and what could be done to improve the lifes of ordinary Lebanese. I have written about this in great detail in that thread before for instance.

Unfortunately it looks like, what I warned about years ago, has occurred, namely Israeli incursion into South Lebanon that they are unlikely to leave anytime soon. As well as massive destruction in South Lebanon. The whole approach needs to change across the board and everyone in Lebanon is at fault here. Hezbollah, the government/regime, various political and sectarian factions. It all boils down to Lebanese disunity historically (hence the many civi wars) and the state, by design, being this way. It really should merge with Syria that it was carved out of by the French 100 years ago. Otherwise it will always be at the mercy of the much stronger neighbor (Israel). In fact a lot of the problems in the region are caused due to lack of Arab unification and instead we see fragmentation and weakening of states which breads divisions and is much easier for outsiders to take advantage of.

 

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Iranians offered full support and the Americans politely refused to accept their support.

 

[Shags101]

I have no problem with that individual. I don't know the guy. I have never attacked him unmotivated. He is the one that started attacking me for no reason by those bait posts. Previously I tried engaging with him and even wrote in Arabic to him. He never replied as I wrote.

I find it hard to believe, based on his posting history, that he is a Palestinian and if he is he is likely born in the US and very unusual for a Palestinian in terms of viewpoints.

I also find it strange that he does not display a Palestinian flag.

In any case I have no problem with him supporting the Iranian regime, hating Arabs, all Arab regimes (his right) but at least the rules should be applied equally.

If I only had an interest to troll him, I would not have replied with a long and detailed post.

However I had to address his hypocrisy and I still believe that he is not a Palestinian but that is just personal opinion and I could be wrong but it does not even matter as we are all anonymous here.

Country or origin (where I was born)America…I thought we were supposed to be honest
Country of residence(where I live) America

I dont hate Arabs I have only disrespected their governments that are dictatorships or fake kings for life show me where I have disrespected Arab people in general I have repeatedly told people they need to separate those who are in power versus their people your telling me I should support Abbas in the PA

I honestly wouldn’t say I support Iranian government they have a lot of the same issues as Arab “governments” but I respect they had the will to fight back past few decades but doesn’t mean the Iranian people don’t deserve better like Arabs

Sorry most of your posts are like 10 pages so I actually stopped reading most of your posts a long time ago I actually only put you on ignore originally because your posts would take up several pages and it would be mostly how Saudis are the greatest and everyone else is beneath them

 

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Country or origin (where I was born)America…I thought we were supposed to be honest
Country of residence(where I live) America

I dont hate Arabs I have only disrespected their governments that are dictatorships or fake kings for life show me where I have disrespected Arab people in general I have repeatedly told people they need to separate those who are in power versus their people your telling me I should support Abbas in the PA

I honestly wouldn’t say I support Iranian government they have a lot of the same issues as Arab “governments” but I respect they had the will to fight back past few decades but doesn’t mean the Iranian people don’t deserve better like Arabs

Sorry most of your posts are like 10 pages so I actually stopped reading most of your posts a long time ago I actually only put you on ignore originally because your posts would take up several pages and it would be mostly how Saudis are the greatest and everyone else is beneath them

I thought the flags showed origin and country of residence. The two other Palestinians here, despite none of them living in Palestine (both in the US if I am not wrong) are flying the Palestinian flag proudly but you are not.

I have never seen you write anything in Arabic, you did not reply to me when I wrote in Arabic to you earlier and I have never seen you talk about Palestine. In terms of history, culture, internal politics, your visions etc. Same thing when it comes to events in the Arab world other than very sporadically. Again from what I have seen.

I don't always write long posts and writing long and detailed posts is not a bad thing if you are writing informative things. I would claim that I usually tend to do that.

Your focus is purely on Arab regimes - hardly any other - even though all of them are the same. In fact certain Arab regimes are much better and have done much better for their countries and peoples. Which are objective facts. Regardless of liking or disliking.

That is your unsubstantial nonsense claim. Never wrote anything remotely close to that. Let alone about Arabs as a whole. In fact I made it clear that there is no better or worse people out there and that all humans are genetically almost identical.

However I have solely written facts about the Arab world and KSA included, being home to some of the (if not the oldest) recorded civilizations, cultures etc. As well as writing historical facts about the history and accomplishments of Arabs, our pre-Arab ancestors etc. whenever some troll has tried to deny them or troll. Nothing more or nothing less. Other than that updates about economic, scientific/technological, industrial, political, tourism, nature, environment, renewables, future visions, Arab affafirs, events in the Arab world, solutions to the problems and challenges etc. Which every Arab user and many non-Arab users here can confirm.

I have also never attacked you or anybody here on this forum unmotivated or without prior insults.

Which is why I publicly wrote that I hardly ever report any posts let alone wish even trolls to get banned because I prefer free speech (within the limits) rather than censorship. Unless outright trolling/insults alone.