PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[BonPlan]

He is not French

The return of the Noob.

 

[Corax]

So no tie ! We can't use a tie on a collar never selled.

RC400 : it's clear, and never because of India, but mainly because we were sure it fall under chineses hands.
MICA : never seen any news about it.

Promises of India about M2000 upgrade and Rafale ? Yes, and they inked their promises.

Then you don't know much, do you. You stopped transfer of ROSE upgraded Mirage III during Kargil war. Mica was meant to be included with RC400, you don't know anything. You answered your own question, you stopped selling arms to Pakistan in exchange for a larger market in india. But that's ok, it's just business, at least accept it and be honest. Both the US and Europeans lost the Pakistan arms market to China and now Turkey.

 

[Yasser76]

The return of the Noob.

Tell me again how you thought Burgundy wine was a brand name and that you did not realise why Beune was famous for aviation despite you claiming to live south of Paris.

Tragically for you Paj, the internet never forgets

 

[BonPlan]

Then you don't know much, do you. You stopped transfer of ROSE upgraded Mirage III during Kargil war. Mica was meant to be included with RC400, you don't know anything. You answered your own question, you stopped selling arms to Pakistan in exchange for a larger market in india. But that's ok, it's just business, at least accept it and be honest. Both the US and Europeans lost the Pakistan arms market to China and now Turkey.

LOL.
You have to check your history my dear :

Sagem from France and Selex from Italy were contracted to provide consultations on military electronics and avionics in 1996. Overhaul facilities and engineering divisions were established at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra. Over 90% of the aircraft were locally retrofitted at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, and a few aircraft were upgraded in France. Under this first phase of the program, designated as ROSE–I, around 33 Mirage 3 and 34 Mirage 5 were upgraded.

In 1998, Margalla Electronics, Desto, GIDS and NIE joined the program after the departure of Sagem and Selex .

Kargil occured one year after the departure of Sagem. point missed.

No RC400 = no MICA as it was the sole air to air missile integrated with this radar. And we never be ready to give data to link AAM to foreign radar (as we didn't accept to integrate Meteor on israeli radar on Tejas).

We stopped selling weapons mainly after the Karachi attack. that's all. And now it's clear that India is seen as a more trustable market.

 

[BonPlan]

Tell me again how you thought Burgundy wine was a brand name and that you did not realise why Beune was famous for aviation despite you claiming to live south of Paris.

Tragically for you Paj, the internet never forgets

Always answered. You know you are wrong but you use this tired history to show off in front of the sole friends you have : this forum. Pityfull my dear.

 

[BonPlan]

Tell me again how you thought Burgundy wine was a brand name and that you did not realise why Beune was famous for aviation despite you claiming to live south of Paris.

Tragically for you Paj, the internet never forgets

Baune and not Beune, noob.

 

[Reichmarshal]

What is the remaining life span of your F16 fleet ?
At the end, no more US tie. (but a chinese one... best today, but tomorrow ?)

They r good to go beyond 2040s from a structural stand point (little less for ADF acquired from jordon) As their structural life is 8000 hrs while PAF mlu package extended the life of our F 16 to 12000-15000 hrs.. N if our fleet goes through a ozgur upgrade or gets the block 70 kits then they will remain relevant n up to date with an easa radar, ew n weapons package etc

 

[Yasser76]

Baune and not Beune, noob.

Yes, you managed to spell check me, but claim to work for Dassault and did not know about the aircraft collection there, the biggest in France and largest private collection in the world. All this is documented in your posts Paj. So please, have some honour (if that is possible with your ilk) and admit this.

Have a nice glass of "Burgundy" now.... hahahaha

 

[Yasser76]

Always answered. You know you are wrong but you use this tired history to show off in front of the sole friends you have : this forum. Pityfull my dear.

No one needs to show off to anyone, we all know who you are, you are the only one that keeps up the pretence. To be fair, I admire your commitment to the lie you live online....

 

[Corax]

LOL.
You have to check your history my dear :

Sagem from France and Selex from Italy were contracted to provide consultations on military electronics and avionics in 1996. Overhaul facilities and engineering divisions were established at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra. Over 90% of the aircraft were locally retrofitted at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, and a few aircraft were upgraded in France. Under this first phase of the program, designated as ROSE–I, around 33 Mirage 3 and 34 Mirage 5 were upgraded.

In 1998, Margalla Electronics, Desto, GIDS and NIE joined the program after the departure of Sagem and Selex .

Kargil occured one year after the departure of Sagem. point missed.

No RC400 = no MICA as it was the sole air to air missile integrated with this radar. And we never be ready to give data to link AAM to foreign radar (as we didn't accept to integrate Meteor on israeli radar on Tejas).

We stopped selling weapons mainly after the Karachi attack. that's all. And now it's clear that India is seen as a more trustable market.

You're an idiot, copying Wikipedia is all you can do?! Get your facts right froggie, you blocked the transfer of the first batch of ROSE upgraded mirages in 1999 during the Kargil war...Google is your friend. And yes, you've proved my point, the RC400 and MICA were part of the same deal., no RC400 meant no MICA, that's the whole point dickhead. Honestly, you are one thick shit who doesn't know anything.

 

[Reichmarshal]

sir can paf integrate turkiye missiles on f 16s without any restriction?

Ozgur upgrade is a very comprehensive package n basically replaces all relevant sys with Turkish sys, including ew, radar etc....thus removing all u.s restrictions in form of kill switches etc.
Wt the client AF remains dependent on the u.s are the engine.

After the delivery of the first 30 some ozgur f 16 to the TUAF.
Turkey has cancelled the order for V upgrade kits from LM. Neaning now all TUAF f16 will go through the ozgur upgrade instead.

 

[Reichmarshal]

for Turkish upgrades to our F-16s we need US approval

Now is the best time to get one

 

[BonPlan]

You're an idiot, copying Wikipedia is all you can do?! Get your facts right froggie, you blocked the transfer of the first batch of ROSE upgraded mirages in 1999 during the Kargil war...Google is your friend. And yes, you've proved my point, the RC400 and MICA were part of the same deal., no RC400 meant no MICA, that's the whole point dickhead. Honestly, you are one thick shit who doesn't know anything.

How to block a batch of something when the supplier was away 1 year before?

 

[BonPlan]

Yes, you managed to spell check me, but claim to work for Dassault and did not know about the aircraft collection there, the biggest in France and largest private collection in the world. All this is documented in your posts Paj. So please, have some honour (if that is possible with your ilk) and admit this.

Have a nice glass of "Burgundy" now.... hahahaha

You may work for Renault and drive a BMW.
You may work in Dassault and not have your flying licence.
You may have worked for Dassault and not known a big collection of jets in the grass.

 

[Yasser76]

You may work for renault and drive a BMW.
You may work in Dassault and not have your flying licence.

You may come on PDF claiming to be an aviation enthusiast and not know about the largest private collection of military jets in a town an hour or so away.

More you post the more you reveal yourself Rakesh., Have you worked out that Burgundy is a type of wine and not a brand yet? You must be on ChatGPT half the time trying to live up to the lie....